Ostriig on 21/8/2010 at 00:08
Quote Posted by Fafhrd
Except they don't make 3D TVs with dual layer polarized panels (and if they did they'd be way the fuck more expensive then the ones available now). They all work on a 240hz pageflip, hence shutter-glasses.
Actually, there are 3D TVs working with polarized light nowadays, it's just that I think they're indeed supposed to be cheekily expensive. Around the beginning of the year I got to see Blitz Games demoing a game called (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_Tiger:_The_Legend_of_Han_Tao) Invincible Tiger on one and we were all given cheapo realD 3D glasses for the presentation, same type you buy at the cinema for 80p.
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
At the moment this is just the usual fearmongering that comes with any new tech.
I've seen some (
http://kotaku.com/5515718/3d-tv-sets-arent-great-for-drinkers-kids-pregnant-women-or-the-elderly) back and (
http://kotaku.com/5610819/doctor-no-evidence-of-3d-causing-eye-damage) forth on the issue. I think the idea was that prolonged, uninterrupted exposure would fuck with your depth perception due to the fixed focus of the images, and was especially risky for young children, but haven't heard of any conclusive tests on the matter yet.
SubJeff on 21/8/2010 at 01:07
I'm not arguing that long term 3D exposure won't cause problems, I was just saying that it's not shutter glasses related. Any issues will also occur with polarizing displays and the 3DS.
june gloom on 21/8/2010 at 01:27
Quote Posted by NamelessPlayer
I'd like to try out some shutterglasses, but they're expensive and my 8800 GT is brutalized enough in modern games as-is, even at resolutions as low as 1024x768.
Eh? I play plenty of recent games with most of the bells and whistles on and at high res, and I have an 8800GT too. The only game that's given me any serious trouble is the Witcher.
Ostriig on 21/8/2010 at 22:02
Yeah, a bit odd, maybe the problem is with another part of the configuration. I've got the 9800GT, which as I recall Eva's denounced several times as being just a rebagged 8800GT, and it's still doing alright. Detail settings will vary, but I don't have to turn down the resolution. The only game that's come out lately that still gives me crap even at minimal details is APB, really.
Either way, though, they clearly won't do for stereoscopic in a new or relatively recent game, not the pretty ones anyhow.
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
I'm not arguing that long term 3D exposure won't cause problems, I was just saying that it's not shutter glasses related. Any issues will also occur with polarizing displays and the 3DS.
Ah, alright, I misunderstood.
NamelessPlayer on 22/8/2010 at 03:03
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Eh? I play plenty of recent games with most of the bells and whistles on and at high res, and I have an 8800GT too. The only game that's given me any serious trouble is the Witcher.
Note that I insist on 60 FPS minimum or at least average whenever possible. I can tolerate occasional dips into the 50 or 40 FPS range, but if it starts getting down below 35 FPS, something's going to have to be turned down, and that something is usually resolution.
With a lot of recent releases being multiplats, it's generally not an issue, but you either have shit ports like GTA IV or Saints Row 2 that demand far more from hardware than they should, decently-optimized titles like Just Cause 2 that get punishing when certain things like GPU Water Simulation are turned on, anything with SSAO/HBAO, and of course, Crysis on Very High DX10. (DCS: Black Shark is also pretty punishing, but I haven't figured out exactly what settings bring the most performance hit, save for my decision to run that one at 1600x1200 to make the clickable cockpit easier to work with.)
I'm waiting for the next generation of graphics cards-preferably something that'll deliver the performance of a GTX 480 at a lower price, both in up-front cost and in power consumption.
To go more on topic, I could see stereoscopic rendering easily cutting framerates in half now that the system has to render two slightly offset viewpoints for a given position. Given that a single GTX 480 already struggles to do something like run Crysis on Very High DX10 at 60 FPS average...
(And while it seems like I'm obsessed with the more hardware-intensive titles, I look at it more like "If my system can pull THAT off with THAT game, every other game should run like butter no matter what!")
SubJeff on 22/8/2010 at 11:04
I think you're punching above your weight already. I have the same card and I'm not bothering with Crysis at all until my next gfx upgrade.
And I tried some Samsung shutter glasses with a 46" Samsung 3D TV. Not very impressive but the demo wasn't the best scene to use. The glasses had noticeable flicker inbetween scenes too. I'll be testing the Sony ones when they arrive.
