Maxrebo6 on 21/5/2016 at 03:44
Thanks for the help Fortuni,you always seem to have the answers,I made sure to download all the folders and bookmark that thread just in case.
I was able to get full loot.
fortuni on 21/5/2016 at 04:03
@ bjack.....There's a clue in the objective, it's in Herwin's room, but you need to find his room key, but as you have completed all your other objectives I'm guessing you have also found the key for Herwin's room, so search The Pit for a locked metal door.
Spoiler.....Herwin's room is on the middle level of The Pit
Spoiler 2......Herwin's room key is on the table where you found the Holy Hammer
@ Maxrebo6....Only for T1/TG missions :D
bjack on 21/5/2016 at 05:21
Quote Posted by fortuni
@ bjack.....There's a clue in the objective,
it's in Herwin's room, but you need to find his room key, but as you have completed all your other objectives I'm guessing you have also found the
key for Herwin's room, so search The Pit for a locked metal door.
Spoiler.....
Herwin's room is on the middle level of The Pit Spoiler 2......
Herwin's room key is on the table where
you found the Holy Hammer@ Maxrebo6....Only for T1/TG missions :D
Thanks, but my problem is finding
Herwin’s room... I already have that key. Just can’t find the room. I have been all up and down and getting impatient. I’ll try again tomorrow and see if I can find a door (out of the many that are not active) that is still locked. Everyone is knocked out, except that one creep in the casino the will not go down. I fear if I hit him one more time, he will die and I will end the mission :cheeky: Maybe I’ve already been there and missed something... Ugh. :grr:
fortuni on 21/5/2016 at 07:32
Go to the middle floor of the pit, the floor with the 5 bedrooms, 4 of which have wooden doors the room you need is at the west end of the south side of that floor it's in the corner opposite a crawlspace where go can rope arrow up to the next level
DrK on 21/5/2016 at 10:55
If you are in the casino, enter the private quarters (blue tunnels), turn left after the small stairs, then Herwin's room is at the end of the corridor.
I didn't really try to hide it to be honest, you're the first person who's having trouble finding it :)
While I'm at it, I'd like to let you know that Athalle made an amazing lootlist and map of Dirty money here :
(
http://ladyjo1.free.fr/thief/spip.php?article1816)
When you look at the fourth map, 33 is the casino, and 31 is Herwin's room.
bjack on 21/5/2016 at 17:39
Thanks all for the spoilers. I was in that room many times and was just being blinded. I tend to also enter from the intended exit and exit from the entry point. I can tell if an author had a specific path they thought most would take. I typically reverse the journey. It is not intentional, I just tend to be a deconstructionist. ;) Cheers, ya'll Nice Mission DrK. The bar area was a little hard for me to sneak, so I simply b-jacked everyone. A big cheat, but after 10 saves and failed replays, I had to move on... Your missions are pretty challenging where you least expect them to be. And after I b-jack lots of guards, I typically find how I could have been in the rafters all along... Duh... :)
DrK on 21/5/2016 at 19:20
Keep in mind I spent 72 hours on this, nothing more. I didn't have time to make a perfectly balanced mission :p
bjack on 21/5/2016 at 19:44
Your mission still has the quality of a very good mission. I was able to go "backward" because of the good design. Oh, and that door. I had forgotten about it. It was one that frobbed, but made no sound. For some reason, lock pick sounds and locked door sounds drop out in TG for me. Fully patched, but there must be something odd in my install. No worries. Finished, but was short about 400 loot. Didn't want to cheat and use the loot list. I did follow a lot of the clues and found lots of hidden stash.
DrK, I know you are a very accomplished DromEd'er and what you can build in 72 hours rivals some people's work that takes them a year or more. It's as if this is second nature to you.
I missed many of these end of the year 72 hour contest games and will move onto the next. I'm only 5 months late ;)
ultravioletu on 5/7/2016 at 10:41
I think the mission was fun to play, a bit confusing when navigating in the sewers. Mind you, I usually try play under Supreme rules from very beginning (no warm-up blackjack runs, because my kids are watching), which limits a bit the exploration, and increase the annoyance, but nevertheless I enjoyed it.
As none posts any more Ghosts reports on Eidos forum, here's mine for this one:
Ghost - Success
Perfect Thief - Failed by me, but it is possible to achieve it
Supreme Ghost - Failed by me, but it is possible to achieve it
Perfect Supreme - Failed
Time - 1:23:01
Loot - 2904 out of 3000 (accounted for all missing loot)
Pockets Picked - 5/5
Locks Picked - 16
Backstabs - 0, Knockouts - 0
Damage dealt - 0, Damage taken - 0
Healing taken - 0, Kills - 0, Bodies Discovered - 0
Consumables - None
Comments: Perfect Supreme is definitely not possible, since the pivoting archer in the Pit first-alerts when unlocking two bedrooms containing loot. Also, I am not sure it's possible to enter the gambling room without being spotted by the annoying female NPCs. I am yet to find a "supreme" way in - but, admittedly, I did not try very hard...
In my run I missed 94 loot - after reading this thread and reloading at the proper times I accounted for all missing pieces - they can be taken without ghost busts.
I took a Supreme bust when leaving the apartment in the West side - not wanting to lose the rope arrow and to avoid taking damage, I jumped onto the patrolling guard, which triggered a settling remark and I believe it counts as engine exploitation. I think there are enough crates scattered around the mission for a stack, but I am not into smuggling stuff around guards. One can find another rope arrow as replacement, to avoid this situation, but for Supreme this might count as “unnecessary pickup”...
I think I got a couple of first alerts when roping down to loot the pub, but I think they're all avoidable, given enough patience to wait for perfect timing - and less inpatient kids behind one's shoulders... An experienced ghoster can supreme those place without problems, I think.
DrK on 6/7/2016 at 18:24
Impressive, I was in such a hurry to release it that I didn't even try to make the gameplay balanced. I never imagined someone could possibly ghost it, and even try to supreme ghost it :o
Well done taffer !
