A little Keeper speculation... and some questions... (SPOILERS !) - by Petike the Taffer
jtr7 on 21/1/2009 at 07:30
Someone dump Viagra in water supplies 'round the world, or what??
Herr_Garrett on 21/1/2009 at 14:54
Oh aye. Just imagine, Caduca panting, "Praise Karras! And the Builder...":ebil:
Karen on 21/1/2009 at 19:05
Herr_Garrett, I think I laughed out a lung.
On the matter of celibacy...
"The essence of balance is detachment. To embrace a cause, to grow fond or spiteful, is to lose one's balance, after which, no action can be trusted. Our burden is not for the dependent of spirit."
My first impression is that it means to fall in love, and not necessarily with a fellow Keeper member. Although it could also mean to not take sides and remain neutral.
pavlovscat on 21/1/2009 at 19:10
Quote Posted by Herr_Garrett
Oh aye. Just imagine, Caduca panting, "Praise Karras! And the Builder...":ebil:
Yeah, I just snorked coffee all over. :p
I love the way your mind works! ;) :cheeky:
nicked on 21/1/2009 at 20:01
Quote Posted by Karen
"The essence of balance is detachment. To embrace a cause,
to grow fond or spiteful, is to lose one's balance, after which, no action can be trusted. Our burden is not for the dependent of spirit."
I always took this to sum up Keeper's personal lives. Are they strictly forbidden to have relationships? No, I don't think so. Instead, the desire to have a relationship is inherently a non-balanced, non-Keeper thing to do, and so no good Keeper would want a relationship. If a Keeper later fell in love, I imagine they would leave the order of their own free will (if not voted out by the others) simply because Keepership and relationships are by their nature mutually exclusive.
Peanuckle on 22/1/2009 at 06:20
I personally subscribe to the idea that keepers have regular orgies in their libraries.
"Keeper John, you are losing your balance!"
*CRASH!*
:joke:
Beleg Cúthalion on 22/1/2009 at 09:07
Quote Posted by nicked
Instead, the desire to have a relationship is inherently a non-balanced, non-Keeper thing to do, and so no good Keeper would want a relationship. If a Keeper later fell in love, I imagine they would leave the order of their own free will (if not voted out by the others) simply because Keepership and relationships are by their nature mutually exclusive.
While I agree with the first one, canon AFAIK indicates that you cannot simply leave the Keepers and remain alive... except you are the chosen one and the interpreter cares about you. The question how the Keepers can exist apparently without the economical base and menial staff which a real monastery had isn't answered yet and indicates for me that their "membership" is much more strict than some from our world. Either they have some kind of prison or rather seclusion chamber for the fallen ones or they simply have to get rid of them if they turn out to be ...uncooperative.
Of course we can assume that all Keeper members are aware of their high intellectual level and standards but after all we have a universe consisting of superstition and non-enlightened thinking in a large part. I don't like the idea of watering the Keepers down by assuming that they can leave and have a happy live in The City – or mary – but for reason's sake I'd like to see some kind of organic attributes. For instance, their supplies could be operated in some kind of transition zone (figuratively) with bogus companies (or ~ customers) concealing the true buyer of three tons of bread or something. :p
jtr7 on 22/1/2009 at 09:40
The scribes do all the dirty work, while all the Keepers are expected to be disciplined enough clean up after themselves. I'm guessing. It would make sense, especially if they just stayed on top of things. Scribes as students of Keeper writings, Keeper tools, Keeper skills, Keeper craft, Keeper duties, and general Keeper living. Acolytes are those who've met the minimal requirements of skill and knowledge, having found their functional Keeper identity. Garrett rejected his graduation ceremony, but was unofficially declared an acolyte. He became an official Acolyte when he was granted and received the door glyph, meaning he was officially a Keeper, tying up that loose end, making him a true Keeper in the Keepers' eyes, and helping to fulfill the glyph prophecies.
A tidbit, ke2_ev_torchtoff1: "Must have a scribe replace that torch."
Petike the Taffer on 22/1/2009 at 14:02
As for the economy of the Keeper organisation :
I reckon' they simply buy their supplies undercover - clad as normal citizens.
Also, setting up fictional accounts and companies to support the material needs of their organisation seems pretty reasonable to me.
One more silly thing I have thought about, is :
Has anyone else noticed, that all the female Keepers have either grayish or blonde hair ? Gammall would be the only exception...
I doubt it means anything, but it certainly is peculiar. :p ;)
Herr_Garrett on 28/1/2009 at 07:35
Quote Posted by Petike the Taffer
Has anyone else noticed, that all the female Keepers have either grayish or blonde hair ? Gammall would be the only exception...
I doubt it means anything, but it certainly is peculiar. :p ;)
Maybe they are Aryans :p
Heil Orland! Siiieeeeeeg.... ! :ebil:
