Dan on 28/10/2007 at 15:08
Quote Posted by Dussander
Ramirez could just walk out into the balcony and pee into his little moat-thing
Or maybe that's how he puts out the fire in his fireplace. I'm pretty sure there are lots of practical uses for "going to the toilet" in the City.
Ziemanskye on 28/10/2007 at 16:39
Considering you can use urine in softening leather and fixing dye in clothes, they probably chamberpot it and someone (smelly) pays them for it.
Check out some of the less pleasant history things and you'll find they were worryingly creative with a lot of things we'd be too grossed out to play with these days.
(and in modern times, well, don't read the ingredients section of those hair removal creams. They did the experimentation back in history, but that doesn't mean we don't still use those things sometimes)
fett on 28/10/2007 at 17:05
Quote Posted by Dussander
Ramirez could just walk out into the balcony and pee into his little moat-thing
Oh geez! I've been swimming in that thing!
Meisterdieb on 28/10/2007 at 23:28
I don't think it is an inconsistency that there weren't any more bathrooms/toilets.
Let's face it, throughout our history most of the time toilet was synonymous with outh thewindow into the streets.
One of the reasons being that it is more expensive to include a toilet into a house, even just because it means making the house larger.
So it makes sense that only rich people or nobles would have them.
And even they did't always have them or use them.
Look at Louis XIV, the Sun King; IIRC there was only one (ONE !) Bathroom in the entire palace of Versailles.
theBlackman on 29/10/2007 at 05:54
Quote Posted by ZeroFlight
Too bad they didn't use the 3 seashell method in Angelwatch.
Or the three corn cob method. One red then one white to see if you need the other red one. :ebil:
vforvegard on 29/10/2007 at 13:39
oh, i know! garrett use his "water"arrows as toilet.
pissarrows!
Peanuckle on 29/10/2007 at 20:15
Not only put out those snobbish noble's torches, but stink up their house as well! Be sure to eat lots of garlic for maximum effect!
Meisterdieb on 30/10/2007 at 02:23
Is the " 3 seashells" a reference to demolition man?
redleaf on 2/11/2007 at 00:41
Quote Posted by Meisterdieb
I don't think it is an inconsistency that there weren't any more bathrooms/toilets.
Look at Louis XIV, the Sun King; IIRC there was only one (ONE !) Bathroom in the entire palace of Versailles.
What a dirty birdie he was!
I grew up on an old farm with no bathroom. So even in rural 1950's America, bathrooms were not necessarily the norm. We had an outhouse. And chamber pots for late night emergencies and for the sick and the infirm. When it was time for a bath, the big tin tub was dragged into the kitchen (once a week on Saturday night). Water was heated in great pots on the wood stove, and we took turns. Privacy consisted of first the women and children, then the men. The rest of the time, washing up was done with cold water from the hand pump. It was a luxury that we had TWO of these, one inside the house at the kitchen sink! My husband's family also had no bathroom. He grew up in rural Asia, and everyone in his village had to go in a ditch or in a hole in the dirt or cement floor in a small back room of the house, and draw water from the village well for washing and cooking.
Some of us think it's weird that some fms have so many bathrooms -- and so modern! Thief has a very medieval feel to it, and opening the door to a modern looking bathroom can have a jarring effect on the sensibilities.
Quite a few concepts we consider "modern" were in use during the time of Rome -- but much of this technology was lost when Rome fell and had to be rediscovered. It took the burgeoning of the middle class to make the use of such technology popular.
Of course, it IS a made-up world, so I guess whatever the author wants is whatever belongs there in his fm.
Didn't mean to go on so long. Guess I been cooped up here in the wall a bit too long ...
Anyway, it'll be interesting to read how you all feel about the subject of bathrooms in Thief. And how about modern looking kitchens?
Peanuckle on 2/11/2007 at 03:52
Yeah, I can see the regular and even noble Thief houses having few bathrooms, but you'd think that the Hammers, with their people all gathered in a single complex, and the Mechanists, with their technology, would have better equipped lavatories.
