Nightwalker on 23/3/2003 at 23:51
You're very welcome! :)
Lynx67 on 25/3/2003 at 01:23
Where exactly, in the bathroom. is the secret switch? We are 25 short on loot.
uncadonego on 25/3/2003 at 05:13
then, face [SPOILER]the toilet and crouch, look as much to the left facing the toilet as possible[/SPOILER] . You should see the switch [SPOILER]just behind the left side of the water closet[/SPOILER] .
Lynx67 on 25/3/2003 at 19:36
Thanks for the help. But just a general comment on game design. This was an enjoyable mission for the most part, BUT when switches are almost impossible to see or find it becomes tedious and takes away a great deal of the enjoyment. Frustration and having to rely on others to complete a mission does not make for good game play.
uncadonego on 26/3/2003 at 03:11
I imagine secret switches is one of the hardest things for an FM author to gauge. Too easy, and it's not really a secret switch. Some people find them staring right at them, and sometimes it can't be found. I remember in Thief Gold, even though the dead Hammer brother you throw in the grave tells you exactly where the switch is in the basement on the mural, it was still very hard to find and frob. If the beta testers find the switches, all a designer can do is assume that most others will find them too. And then there's always the FM forum, which is a great deal of its purpose. That's what the forum description says : "Stuck?.................this is the place!" MOG's review of this mission said he enjoyed the challenge and satisfaction of finding the switches in this mission. It all depends on the individual.
lonzboy on 28/3/2003 at 17:04
The hardest switch to find for me was to turn off the alarm at Angelwatch. That one was well hidden in the doorway. Can'tthink of the name offhand, but a bank mission had mini switches I found too hard to find, even when I read where they were supposed to be. I found the bathroom switch right away in this one, because I was checking behind the toilet for lost change. I thought since there was change on the back of the toilet, maybe some fell behind, and there [SPOILER]was the secret switch hilighting.[/SPOILER] Talk about dropped change alright!
yandros on 28/3/2003 at 18:48
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Originally posted by lonzboy Can'tthink of the name offhand, but a bank mission had mini switches I found too hard to find, even when I read where they were supposed to be. That would probably be my Contest 3 entry,
Eastwater Bank. And you're certainly not the only one to think the switches were too hard to find. ;)
lonzboy on 4/4/2003 at 15:33
Yep!!! That was the one!! Sorry to complain...umm...it was great, really.:)
uncadonego- I actually guessed right that you were the author of this one after I saw Two Fathers! I'm good! Check out the something..something..and the author is... thread. I'm in there somewhere guessing this was yours. Even though you didn't get many votes, I think it's because you didn't stick out in any one category. Don't feel bad, this mission was really good.:thumb:
Nightwalker on 4/4/2003 at 15:41
lonzboy is right about the votes. I think there were a number of missions in this contest like that. They were really fun to play, had decent storylines, etc. but just didn't stand out enough to grab the votes. I betatested this one and I thought it was great fun then. I still do!
Weasel on 7/11/2003 at 09:42
I know this post is a little late, but I just played the mission.
What I want to know is, how did a guy with such a tiny house get 20 guards working for him?! They're everywhere!
