A tiny request to mapmakers about main menu modification

A.Stahl on 30/3/2019 at 07:40

In big missions some mapmakers changing the appeal of the menu (New game and so on...)
I know that you always want to do it better but in result many of these menus (especially in old maps) are became unreadable.
A most widespread problem is absent of letters.
And it is extremely inconvenient.
I never saw these problems in the newer maps (maybe NewDark fixes these problems) but still.
I know nothing about mapmaking, but it looks like it is a font problem. Maybe you need to bundle font files withing mission archive? I really don't know how does it work, but the result is very unpleasant.

There are similar things with in-game text. Even if letters are drawn but there is a mess with carriage returns. Maybe it is Windows|Unix /r/n|/n problem. I don't know, but very often text doesn't fit into the page.

Yeah, I'm just whining, but what else can I do?

Good luck to you with Thief2 anniversary maps!

Unna Oertdottir on 30/3/2019 at 07:46

This might be an issue. Back in the days, nobody had (extreme) widescreen resolutions, 4k monitors, etc.
Give us some examples or even better, list the borked FMs.

A.Stahl on 30/3/2019 at 07:53

Recent example: now I'm playing Calendra's legacy. No letters in the menu. Also, no text while quicksave. Ingame notes are fine.

A.Stahl on 30/3/2019 at 07:56

Also problems while checking loot (I hope you do understand, when I scrolling through inventory): no text. Even the numbers are strange. They are too small, but I cannot be sure. May be it is intentional because of there is no loot quest in this mission.

Unna Oertdottir on 30/3/2019 at 08:01

Please post Thief2.log in code tags. It's in the root folder.

A.Stahl on 30/3/2019 at 08:07

Code:

: PID: 8
: CPU: arch=x86-64 , fam=586 , cpus=8
: SIMD: SSE=3 , 3DNow=0 , MMX=1
: OS Version: 10.0.17134
: Desktop resolution: 1920 x 1080
: Virtual desktop resolution: 1920 x 1080
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: Command line: Z:\home\astahl\programs\games\Thief2\Thief2.exe
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: CWD: Z:\home\astahl\programs\games\Thief2
: FM Path: FMs\Calendras_Legacy_v1a
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: App Version: Thief 2 Final 1.26
: --------------------- misc config -------------------------
: resname_base D:\games\Thief2\res+.\RES
: load_path .+D:\games\Thief2
: script_module_path .+D:\games\Thief2
: movie_path FMs\Calendras_Legacy_v1a\Movies+.\MOVIES+D:\games\Thief2\movies
: mod_path .\MODS\EP\EPBooks+.\MODS\EP
: install_path .+D:\games\Thief2
: language english
: fm
: game_screen_size 1920 1080
: game_screen_depth 32
: game_screen_flags 45
: game_full_screen 1
: d3d_driver_index 0
: game_hardware 1
: single_display_mode 2
: ui_scale_mode 2
: use_d3d_display
: framerate_cap 100.0
: SlowFrame 4
: SlowFrameUI 10
: force_32bit
: force_32bit_textures
: mipmap_mode 2
: lm_mipmap_mode 0
: lm_init_texmem 2
: lm_filter_margin 1
: disable_lightmap_aniso
: tex_edge_padding 2
: alpha_test_as_opaque
: multisampletype 8
: d3d_disp_enable_distortionfx
: sfx_device 1
: sfx_channels 12
: sfx_vol_music -474
: sfx_vol_2d 0
: sfx_vol_3d 0
: game dark
: obj_min -9000
: obj_max 4000
: max_refs 14000
: gui_font intrface\smalfont
: enhanced_sky 1
: skip_intro
: crop_movies
: new_mantle
: z_far 512
: wr_render_zcomp
: render_weapon_particles
: legacy_force_match_unrefs 0
: dark_zcomp_arm
: edit_screen_size 1440,900
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: Enumerating D3D9 adapters (1)...
: Adapter 0
: device name: \\.\DISPLAY1
: driver : ati2dvag.dll
: descr : ATI RADEON 7200 SERIES
: driver ver : 0x000A000E-000A19D6
: vendor id : 0x00001002
: device id : 0x00005144
: subsys id : 0x00000000
: device guid: AEB2CDD4-6E41-43EA-941C-8361CC76
: desktop res: 1920 x 1080
: Modes
: 1920 x 1080 x 16
: 1680 x 1050 x 16
: 1280 x 1024 x 16
: 1440 x 900 x 16
: 1280 x 960 x 16
: 1280 x 800 x 16
: 1152 x 864 x 16
: 1280 x 720 x 16
: 1024 x 768 x 16
: 800 x 600 x 16
: 720 x 576 x 16
: 720 x 480 x 16
: 640 x 480 x 16
: 1920 x 1080 x 32
: 1680 x 1050 x 32
: 1280 x 1024 x 32
: 1440 x 900 x 32
: 1280 x 960 x 32
: 1280 x 800 x 32
: 1152 x 864 x 32
: 1280 x 720 x 32
: 1024 x 768 x 32
: 800 x 600 x 32
: 720 x 576 x 32
: 720 x 480 x 32
: 640 x 480 x 32
: Device Validation
: validated ok, device added (0, E390000)
: Enumeration done
: D3DProvider: Enumerating adapter 0 modes
: 1920 x 1080 x 16
: 1680 x 1050 x 16
: 1280 x 1024 x 16
: 1440 x 900 x 16
: 1280 x 960 x 16
: 1280 x 800 x 16
: 1152 x 864 x 16
: 1280 x 720 x 16
: 1024 x 768 x 16
: 800 x 600 x 16
: 720 x 576 x 16
: 720 x 480 x 16
: 640 x 480 x 16
: 1920 x 1080 x 32
: 1680 x 1050 x 32
: 1280 x 1024 x 32
: 1440 x 900 x 32
: 1280 x 960 x 32
: 1280 x 800 x 32
: 1152 x 864 x 32
: 1280 x 720 x 32
: 1024 x 768 x 32
: 800 x 600 x 32
: 720 x 576 x 32
: 720 x 480 x 32
: 640 x 480 x 32
: D3DProvider: Enumeration done
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 0 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0
: CreateDevice: res = D3D_OK ; 1920x1080 fmt=22 zfmt=71 cnt=1 ms=8 swap=1 fs=1 hz=0 pres=1 flags=2
: Loaded script module "miss14.osm" [FileModDate=2000-Mar-27]
: Loaded script module "convict.osm" [FileModDate=2000-Mar-27]
: Failed to load script module "genosm.osm" (error code 126)
: Loaded script module "gen.osm" [FileModDate=2000-Mar-27]
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 1 3D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_FakeDOF: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_Blur2pass: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 1 3D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_FakeDOF: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_Blur2pass: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 1 3D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_FakeDOF: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_Blur2pass: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 1 3D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_FakeDOF: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_Blur2pass: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 1 3D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_FakeDOF: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_Blur2pass: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 1 3D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_FakeDOF: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_Blur2pass: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 1 3D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_FakeDOF: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_Blur2pass: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 1 3D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_FakeDOF: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_Blur2pass: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0
: Loaded script module "miss14.osm" [FileModDate=2000-Mar-27]
: Loaded script module "convict.osm" [FileModDate=2000-Mar-27]
: Failed to load script module "genosm.osm" (error code 126)
: Loaded script module "gen.osm" [FileModDate=2000-Mar-27]
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 1 3D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_FakeDOF: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_Blur2pass: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 1 3D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_FakeDOF: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_Blur2pass: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 1 3D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_FakeDOF: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_Blur2pass: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0
: Loaded script module "miss14.osm" [FileModDate=2000-Mar-27]
: Loaded script module "convict.osm" [FileModDate=2000-Mar-27]
: Failed to load script module "genosm.osm" (error code 126)
: Loaded script module "gen.osm" [FileModDate=2000-Mar-27]
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 1920x1080x32 (7 9 1 3D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_ScreenDistort: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_FakeDOF: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: ERROR: cD8Effect_Blur2pass: CreatePixelShader failed: error -2005530516: error
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1920x1080x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 0

Unna Oertdottir on 30/3/2019 at 08:29

CL in 1920 x 1080 resolution is no issue under normal circumstances.
Is this a network drive or something? Tell us more about the setup.

You'll find the menu data in FM/intrface. Is it there?

A.Stahl on 30/3/2019 at 08:40

Situation is difficult. Now I'm using GNU/Linux (through Wine) but the game is running flawlessly: everything is the same as at those times when I was using Windows. Under Windows these problems were the same. Nothing have changed.

>You'll find the menu data in FM/intrface.
I'm afraid i do not uderstand. Do I need to look for this information inside the archive?

A.Stahl on 30/3/2019 at 08:50

Understood. So I see a bunch of old *.pcx format images. Where do I need to look at the text?

Unna Oertdottir on 30/3/2019 at 08:54

I asked for the network drive.

Open the FM archive (Calendra's Legacy.zip)
In intrface folder, you'll find the menu data. Note it. You need to compare it with with the installed FM intrface data. Is it the same data?