Digital Nightfall on 28/7/2006 at 04:52
Quote Posted by Bulgarian_Taffer
But anyway we've got a good plot at CoSaS.
And I'm awaiting mission X :)
I sure hope so. It seems pretty hacked together sometimes too. :)
I think it's been revised at least 10 times as well.
Oh well, so was the T1 plot.
dlw6 on 28/7/2006 at 10:54
Great art and great cooking takes time. Why would CoSaS be any different? Release it when it's ready, but not before.
Don
xxcoy on 28/7/2006 at 20:20
Quote Posted by samsonov
great, can't wait :)
Sorry, I make you wait, but I've got a lot of things to do at this time. I did not forget my promise. ;)
Lumpy on 24/8/2006 at 14:34
The rust-gas itself is probably organic. According to Viktoria, it reacts with organic material. Also, it would be impossible for it to react only with organic material, because it is identical to dead organic material, AFAIK.
What is strange is that the reaction between rust-gas and organic material results in more rust-gas. So the rust gas is more a catalyst than a reactant.
Another property of it is that after some time, it falls to the ground, in the form of a rust-like dust. I doubt the dust is the same substance as the gas, as it should turn into gas again as it is unsettled, thus it would be unsafe the swipe it. Also, I doubt it's a decomposition reaction, since it would take place inside the cultivators as well. Most likely, it is a reaction with the oxygen.
On the matter of food, Karras isn't as stupid as to disregard such an important aspect. The mechanists will most likely import the food, or perhaps the seeds to plant new greenhouses, from the other cities.
jtr7 on 24/8/2006 at 23:17
That's why they need a Cultivator. Apparently the gas condenses into a solid after its reaction (perhaps mixing with water and settling in tiny clumps), and the cultivator atomizes it. It may even separate the heavier compounds (and water) from the Mutox through centrifigal force, but this is pure speculation.
It's important to note that the Necrotic Mutox is called a desiccant. So... it probably drives moisture away (and/or bonds with it and falls to the ground as a kind of dust), then continues to break molecular bonds, causing the cell structures to crumble.
Maybe it's a multiple stage reaction, with the removal of water as the first stage, the removal of carbon as the second stage, a third stage that allows it to turn organic matter into more of itself, and a fourth stage to cause it to precipitate as a dust, ready to be used again, but only if it is passed through a Cultivator.
Holywhippet on 28/8/2006 at 04:04
I don't think we can apply exact science to this situation. Karras said that the result is very similar to rust - but rust is just iron oxide. The human body does have a certain amount of iron in it - particularly in the haemoglobin in your blood. But there are a lot of other elements and compounds in there as well. Calcium is a major one since every bone in your body is made out of it. Even if necrotic mutox was a dessicant that removed all of the water from your body, your bones would still remain. Matter can't simply be made to vanish. Water (which most of your body is made out of) might be able to evaporate but the heavier elements and compounds can't. That being said, its never shown just how much dust is formed when the gas is applied to a human.
Anyway, the way it behaves makes me suspect that it might be less of a chemical and more of a bacteria. The fact that it "eats" everything it can and reproduces itself is certainly consistent with bacterial behaviour.
Tony on 28/8/2006 at 20:27
Quote Posted by Lumpy
The rust-gas itself is probably organic. According to On the matter of food, Karras isn't as stupid as to disregard such an important aspect. The mechanists will most likely import the food, or perhaps the seeds to plant new greenhouses, from the other cities.
This is twice wrong. First, Karras had all of the Mechanists other than himself outside of the sealed cathedral. This means that they would die, too. And secondly, the rust gas would destroy all life on the planet, not just in the City.
jtr7 on 28/8/2006 at 20:47
No, of course we can't apply exact science.:angel:
Also, the removal of water is the first stage. Then stage two begins and the carbon is removed from all those organic molecules. Or something like that....:erg:
SHuA on 28/8/2006 at 21:48
Anywho...yes I loved "Life of the Party", it was one of the best mission on T2 for me because of the thieves highway and how large the whole city was. And that is what I like doing, going around from roof to roof stealing, looting and killing unsuspecting persons along the way. The whole thief experience is unreal and I love it. I only wish the city was entirely explorable and endless and you could venture out into the story line as you please. Like if you finish in one part of the city and the next mission is to to take place on the other side, you have to physically go there and in the mean while have some fun along the way. ***Starts dreaming, grabs blackjack and dashes out window***
Holywhippet on 28/8/2006 at 23:00
Quote Posted by Tony
And secondly, the rust gas would destroy all life on the planet, not just in the City.
That I doubt. When the dust has nothing to "eat" it goes inert after about 5-10 seconds. Even if you assume the dust rapidly spreads and eats all the forests, animals and people - unless the world is a pangaea (ie. only one megacontinent) that dust is never going to wipe out the other continents as it will go inert long before it reaches them.