All is not lost. - by Nicker
henke on 12/11/2013 at 07:48
True story: I never watched the final episode of Lost. I watched every other episode except for that one.
N'Al on 12/11/2013 at 07:57
To be fair, doesn't make much difference.
june gloom on 12/11/2013 at 11:05
True story: I never watched an episode of Lost.
icemann on 12/11/2013 at 12:26
Depends on which episode you term as the "last" one since a 10 minute epilogue episode video was released a bit after the finale.
And as long as you weren't under the impression that they were all dead all along then you can skip the finale, but if you were then I'd recommend watching it someday.
It does clear up some stuff. And what the deal with the parallel universe stuff was all about.
And true story: I only watched the finale for the first time a few months ago.
nobodyinparticular on 12/11/2013 at 19:46
Awesome. This has almost redeemed Hitler's little shenanigans.
A goose-step too far?
demagogue on 13/11/2013 at 15:03
There's this idea that a lot of Nazis were so high culture & had this ubermensch mentality, but when you look at situations like this you get the idea that a lot of them were just thugs that didn't get what art and culture were good for. Cultural sterilization is a good term for it. The Communists under Stalin did the same thing, where there was a rigid way art and culture had to be done to meet the State interests & any art that "degenerated" from that got burned & the artists expelled, nevermind they actually supported what the state wanted in their own way.
So much so that I read an article recently that the CIA funded US modern art exhibitions around the world in the Cold War era, even though most of it ridiculed the US government & way of life itself and was pretty radically left-wing. But it at least showed that in the liberal West nobody is telling you what you can or can't draw on a piece of paper because of some total ideology that's supposed to apply to all art and culture indiscriminately. Screw that. Artistic freedom is the first step to any kind of cultural vitality. We have to remind ourselves of that because even today there are forces that want to control what's good and bad art to make & restrict that freedom...
faetal on 13/11/2013 at 19:06
Quote Posted by dethtoll
True story: I never watched an episode of Lost.
I struggled through 3 episodes before fucking it in the bin.
N'Al on 14/11/2013 at 06:06
Quote Posted by faetal
fucking it in the bin.
That... sounds exceptionally dodgy.
True story: I've seen all episodes of Lost.
Quite enjoyed it, actually, but it's definitely a series that's more about the 'journey' than the 'destination', that's for sure.
icemann on 14/11/2013 at 06:11
Hell yeah. Completely agree.
Nicker on 15/11/2013 at 06:59
Quote Posted by demagogue
There's this idea that a lot of Nazis were so high culture & had this ubermensch mentality, but when you look at situations like this you get the idea that a lot of them were just thugs that didn't get what art and culture were good for. Cultural sterilization is a good term for it. The Communists under Stalin did the same thing, where there was a rigid way art and culture had to be done to meet the State interests & any art that "degenerated" from that got burned & the artists expelled, nevermind they actually supported what the state wanted in their own way.
What's this? An on topic comment?
At least the Soviets were ideologically consistent and actually burned "degenerate" art. The Nazis sneered at it in public then sold it to fill the war chest. Perhaps the Nazis figured they would just capture it again, once they ruled the world, THEN they could burn it.
Speaking of Nazis... :rolleyes:
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"ZylonBane - *observation that the statement "All is not lost" is logically equivalent to "None is lost", which is of course not true (which could also be expressed as "false")*
"All is not lost" is more equivalent to "not everything is lost" or "something was saved" rather than "none is lost" which, if one is going to be jack-booted about it, should read "none ARE lost". Meaning that not only is your observation a false equivalency it is grammatically flawed to boot (jacked or otherwise...).
Figure of speech anyone?
PS: I never watched Lost either, except once because I had no choice. The episode where they find a Volkswagon van which had been abandoned in the jungle for a decade or so, and still had gas in the tank, air in the tires and crates of canned, drinkable beer in the back.
