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june gloom on 5/6/2014 at 19:59
Fair enough but he was still involved and my other examples still stand.
Renzatic on 5/6/2014 at 21:17
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
Sounds like he's one of those rare, unfortunate nerds with no grasp of surreal humor. Let me guess-- he doesn't like Monty Python either, nor any of the many Python-spawned films? Zucker Brothers? Raimi?
That's pretty much exactly what he is. He's one of those people you don't want to watch some movies with, because he doesn't get some things, and declares them stupid if they don't conform to certain standards. Like I remember telling him about how good Children of Men was way back in the day. He goes out and rents it, watches it, then calls me back telling me how stupid it was.
Why?
Because the ending was left so open.
"What's the point? They set you up for this big payoff, then leave you hanging by ending it during the penultimate moment".
"That's kind of the point in and of itself. The whole movie is about having and holding on to hope in the most dire and unsure of circumstances. Giving it a definitive ending, happy, sad, or bittersweet, would ruin the whole message of the film".
"Well, I think it's stupid. I can't stand it when movies do that. It's a pretentious copout".
GAWWWW!
ZylonBane on 5/6/2014 at 21:32
Not that some genuinely terrible movies haven't done the same thing (haven't seen Children of Men, so don't know which category it falls in). But wanting closure in a plot sounds like a whole separate issue from handling surrealism.
Renzatic on 5/6/2014 at 21:47
Oh, there are. But he tends more towards blanket statements on the issue (all vague endings are bad), while I say a good ending is a good ending, vague or no.
It's always best to end a movie on the right note, even if that note doesn't offer much in the way of closure.
edit: and it's not wholly separate. Someone who needs finality in their stories before they can enjoy it as a whole probably won't tend towards more surreal media, which generally doesn't offer anything concrete to hold on to during or after.
june gloom on 5/6/2014 at 21:55
Clearly you do.
N'Al on 5/6/2014 at 22:05
The guy doesn't like Children of Men either!?!
I order you to cancel your friendship with him forthwith!
Renzatic on 5/6/2014 at 22:23
Yeah, and I've got another friend who didn't like Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones. But he's a helluva more tolerable about this stuff because he doesn't try to present his entirely subjective opinion as a logical dissertation. Sometimes, all it takes is an "eh, I just didn't like it" for me to accept it. If they at least made an honest attempt to enjoy it before realizing it's not their thing, then it's all good. Discussion over. You can disagree, but you can't really argue against personal taste.
But when you explain to me why X people are wrong for liking something in a condescending tone, and then list off bullshit as scientific fact, all that does is make me want to punch you in your goddamn smarmy neck.
SubJeff on 5/6/2014 at 23:07
Is you "friend" dethtoll?
Renzatic on 5/6/2014 at 23:22
Nah. If I were talking about Dethtoll, I'd say it was Dethtoll. Weirdly enough, Deth's rants don't get on my nerves quite as much, cuz I figure he's just doing his thing to piss people off.
