Trance on 26/10/2018 at 23:00
Quote Posted by jkcerda
we are seriously divided here.
Hey, it's right-wingers who most often frame this political situation as a war, with the left their eternal enemy. They've laid a lot of groundwork to ensure the left can never be anything OTHER than their enemy.
I've yet to see substantial efforts at compromise from the right. They seem quite happy to act like they have the run of the kingdom now.
jkcerda on 26/10/2018 at 23:09
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/09/politics/mitch-mcconnell-hillary-clinton-civility/index.html)
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ANTIFA has been going full retard for over two years. don't see democrats telling them to slow down one bit.
what many of you don't get is that trump is playing you like a fiddle. all this violence only works to trumps favor.
Renzatic on 26/10/2018 at 23:23
Quote Posted by jkcerda
ANTIFA has been going full retard for over two years. don't see democrats telling them to slow down one bit.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/08/30/pelosi-condemns-violent-actions-of-antifa-protesters/?utm_term=.a5566c96a6dd) Bullshit.
You already know my thoughts on ANTIFA. They're idiots muddying already murky waters. Though to repeat what Starker said earlier, a bunch of masked anarchist loons swinging bike locks at neo-nazis and smashing windows is a far cry from someone deciding to mail out 13 poorly constructed, but still potent pipe bombs to various politicians and celebrities across the nation.
jkcerda on 26/10/2018 at 23:27
meh, steroid popping moron is less lethal than the guy who shot up the republicans at the game.....one republican almost died, while democrats never faced any real danger from the fake bombs........................... neither one of them represent the opposition. Maxine just like Clinton are acting like cheeto hitler................
Renzatic on 26/10/2018 at 23:33
Quote Posted by jkcerda
meh, steroid popping moron is less lethal than the guy who shot up the republicans at the game............................. neither one of them represent the opposition. Maxine just like Clinton are acting like cheeto hitler................
And how many democrats did you see scream about that shooting being a false flags, or claiming HE ISN'T REALLY A DEMOCRAT!
That's the issue here. The Ricin guy? He's an idiot. No one's defending him. Same for the baseball shooter. Sayoc? You've got whole armies of crazied Trumpists out there drumming up false evidence showing the guy was a registered democrat, or that it's all been staged for the benefit of the upcoming election.
How can one side of the great political divide always demand the other own its demons when they've shown themselves so unwilling to do so for their own?
Trance on 26/10/2018 at 23:45
Make the mistake of assuming everyone thinks the way you do, and you're giving the other side the advantage of tactical surprise.
And can you please, for Christ's sake, stop posting all these fucking image macros please? That is beyond obnoxious.
Renzatic on 26/10/2018 at 23:50
Yeah, cut down on the memes, JK. Once you post more than a couple, they get real annoying, real quick.
jkcerda on 27/10/2018 at 00:05
Quote Posted by Trance
Make the mistake of assuming everyone thinks the way you do, and
you're giving the other side the advantage of tactical surprise.
And can you please, for Christ's sake, stop posting all these fucking image macros please? That is beyond obnoxious.
I don't have a side that can "win"; Libertarians are a joke, we have always been a joke, we will continue to be a joke for many reasons, one of them being neither side cares when their "party" is doing misdeeds, they only care when the "other" side is doing them, we are hopelessly divided and that is not going to change anytime soon.
Trance on 27/10/2018 at 00:24
Contrary to your claims, I do actually care when the people I vote for carry out misdeeds. If they're bad enough, they can make me regret my vote and get me to vote against them at my next opportunity.
The trouble is, there's a whole lot of conspiracy nuts out there who invent reams of misdeeds that never happened, and then throw out the same exact reasoning you're employing here to make it seem like I'm sweeping it all under the rug when in reality I'm simply ignoring their crazy asses and their paranoid delusions. I do not agree with the conclusions most people on the right, including yourself, have drawn about the leaders of the left, chiefly because they seem to me to rest on a tangled mess of misinterpretations and outright falsehoods that are held together solely through the power of bias.
You believe a lot of things about high-profile Democrats that I don't believe, because you want them to be true, so to you they ARE true. You may think these things have a factual foundation, but I'm willing to bet that a random sample of 5 of these contested beliefs will turn out to be at least 3/5ths bunk. I am willing to go through the process of analyzing each of the 5 in turn, to give you the opportunity to surprise me and change my mind.