Starker on 21/12/2018 at 05:53
Whataboutism noted. Nothing Obama did has any bearing to the fact that military strategy should not be done on a whim over Twitter.
Nicker on 21/12/2018 at 06:20
Quote Posted by jkcerda
Damage to your overseas missions. ? Holy fuck oretard turned most liberals into neocons...
I never supported the form of military intervention that Bush led into Afghanistan but Trump withdrawing troops is just reckless. And overseas missions include diplomatic efforts, which are now pretty much useless, since Trump has gutted the diplomatic corps, damage which will take generations to repair.
And then there's trade, or the lack thereof...
I don't think that anybody with their head so far up Trump's ass they can floss his teeth, should be calling anyone else a retard.
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"Deflection noted."
Wasn't there some sort of insta-ban warning about this vacuous bullshit?
demagogue on 21/12/2018 at 07:42
What a perfect anti-Christmas message. The poor and vulnerable come to us and in honor of Christmas boatloads of self-declared Christians raise millions of dollars for them to literally do the opposite of what Jesus teaches, kick them away from the curb and build a pointless symbol of despising them that doesn't even keep anyone actually out.
Starker on 21/12/2018 at 08:09
Yet another instalment in the series The Best People:
[video=youtube;Qn4tzinaRNQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn4tzinaRNQ[/video]
The story of a disgraced general who was willing to sell out to the highest bidder and yet somehow eluded jail... or so it seemed until it was time for sentencing:
[video=youtube;3_LxezqArzE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_LxezqArzE[/video]
Who could have thought that his attempt to shift responsibility would backfire so spectacularly.
jkcerda on 21/12/2018 at 15:08
Quote Posted by Nicker
I never supported the form of military intervention that Bush led into Afghanistan but Trump withdrawing troops is just reckless. And overseas missions include diplomatic efforts, which are now pretty much useless, since Trump has gutted the diplomatic corps, damage which will take generations to repair.
And then there's trade, or the lack thereof...
I don't think that anybody with their head so far up Trump's ass they can floss his teeth, should be calling anyone else a retard.
Wasn't there some sort of insta-ban warning about this vacuous bullshit?
well them take your head out of trumps ass so you can call him a retard........
Quote Posted by Starker
Whataboutism noted. Nothing Obama did has any bearing to the fact that military strategy should not be done on a whim over Twitter.
IT'S NOT whataboutism when oretards actions are the direct reason why Trump was able to put troops there, you are pretending Obama was in Afghanistan w/o Bush taking us there first........
it's funny you bitch about military strategy while failing to say what the fuck should be done after we kill Assad? was Libya not enough of a lesson for you?
oretard did turn you guys into freaking neocons. ........ go wage fucking war and you don't have to worry about exit strategies if you occupy their lands forever.........fucking brilliant.:rolleyes:
"We came , we saw, he died" yeah and millions got displaced and slaves are sold in the market and their organs are being harvested for the black market, this is the shit oretard caused.
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https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/enslaved-immigrants-sold-their-kidneys-liver-libyas-burgeoning-organ-trafficking-market-1650024)
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African slaves cut open for their kidneys in Libya's burgeoning organ trafficking market
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https://vivalibya.wordpress.com/2015/01/30/over-2-5-million-people-displaced-by-libyan-war-nearly-half-a-million-in-the-past-few-months/)
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Over 2.5 Million People Displaced by Libyan War, Nearly Half a Million in the Past Few Months
Renzatic on 22/12/2018 at 03:18
Quote Posted by jkcerda
"We came , we saw, he died" yeah and millions got displaced and slaves are sold in the market and their organs are being harvested for the black market, this is the shit oretard caused.
How many times does it have to be explained to you that the US didn't start the Libyan Civil War, and that our involvement in it was fairly minimal. The US, the UK, Belgium, Canada, France, Italy, Norway, Qatar, and Spain all played a part in it, spurred on by the UN, not by Obama. We few a few sorties, enforced a no-fly zone, and helped bolster the blockade. We never committed troops, nor intended to be there for any extended period of time. A little over 6 months later, and we were gone.
The sad fact is that this has been explained to you time and time again. Yet it fails to sink through your thick fucking head. You always return to the same argument time and again. Always stating that our involvement in Libya was just as bad as Iraq, and blah blah blah LIBERALS NEOCONS NOW TOO OLOL! There's a level of extremity here you're refusing to acknowledge, choosing to equate bombs dropped on ISIS targets in Foreign Country X, more often than not with their permission, as being equivalent to a decade long occupation of two countries by 300,000+ US troops.
Why should anyone debate you if you're just going to dismiss any point of information that runs counter to your preconceived notions, only to return to the same argument time and time and time again as if nothing was said at all. It kind of makes it something of a waste of time engaging you in a conversation, doesn't it?
jkcerda on 22/12/2018 at 06:40
Minimal involvement.? How the hell is training the terrorist and arming them minimal involvement.? That's Syria. Libya we even imposed a no fucking fly zone on top of arming them and you are going to feed me the minimum involvement bullshit? We interfered in civil wars in sovereign nations. Spare me who the fuck else was involved as If that makes it ok. There is no fucking answer to this damn shit show. Time to GTFO.
Starker on 22/12/2018 at 10:47
Is Obama to blame that Lord Dampnut got bested in diplomacy by Erdogan? Is Obama to blame that Lord Dampnut put troops in Syria? Did Obama force him to increase troops in Afghanistan? Did Obama force him to increase bombings?
Of course I criticise Lord Dampnut for his inept strategy. It's clear he basically acted on a whim and without consulting anyone. USA has an obligation to its soldiers and to its allies and Lord Dampnut's actions put them in unnecessary jeopardy, it's as simple as that. The rest of the stuff is only you projecting things onto me.
jkcerda on 22/12/2018 at 11:00
W/o obama we would not be in Syria. If trump gave these dip shits notice you would see another staged chemical attack , we do have an obligation to our soldiers. Trump is bringing them home , the increase in bombings and troops were what the neocons suggested but the buck stops with trump nonetheless. He's cutting our losses and shutting down this shit show. Our “allies” can go suck a fat one for all I care , you guys love to overlook Libya. Because deep down you know there is no answer to the shot show we are in and the amazing cluster fuck we have created, your clown spent his entire administration waging war. It kisses you off the guy you pretend is Hitler is ending this shit