Vernon on 13/9/2011 at 01:41
Quote Posted by Muzman
He's pleasant
Yeah he had a nice smile I guess? I dunno.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ranch_Hand) This is a good place to start. There's no fucking excuse for that. Nine years of herbicidal warfare as part of the 'psychological operations,' of the war. It affected over 26'000 villages. It destroyed nearly ten million acres of land. The contamination is still widespread - people are still suffering from the effects of dioxin (spina bifida, type 2 diabetes, parkinson's) including the poor young laddies sent over to fight in an unjustified war. It was done in the name of the USA by John F. Kennedy. Nice one.
He was a nasty, genocidal motherfucker who deserves the same treatment you'd give to anyone who did the same but didn't happen to be a handsome yankee president. Nothing can redeem him.
doctorfrog on 13/9/2011 at 02:25
This comic doesn't represent everything I feel about the last decade, but it does represent a very dark, undeniable corner of my brains:
Inline Image:
http://i.imgur.com/ebEe6.jpgIt happened, it was terrible, and we haven't stopped shitting all over ourselves and snapping wildly at everything that moves (including ourselves) since.
Or so it seems some days. What a decade.
Nice OP, dethy. Though I confess I skipped over a good slab of it.
edit: I had no idea they'd actually started building the Freedom Tower. What an asshole I feel like for not knowing this. Looks like it's gonna be a nice tower. I was starting to wonder if it was going to be like the (
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Ryugyong_Hotel) Ryugyong Hotel.
PeeperStorm on 13/9/2011 at 03:01
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I was just a kid at the time, but I mainly remember the Carter administration for Watt Watcher campaigns, a half-hearted attempt to convert to the metric system, stagflation, and hostages in Iran.
In a nutshell, Carter was naive, indecisive, and had a penchant for turning against nations that were our allies. His economic and oil policies made bad situations worse.
In particular, you can thank him for actively encouraging the revolution in Iran and emboldening the Soviets to invade Afghanistan, both of which had (and still have) all sorts of fun consequences throughout the Middle East.
Forever420 on 13/9/2011 at 03:37
the 2000's, one of the most horrific decades of our time. It saw the rise of the murdering beast Bush, who invades a country for spite and gives no heeds to the piles of corprses, of the innocent women and children, who were murdered for his capitalist crusade. No heed or remorse for the thousands of innocent Americans sacrificed to give rise to a global crusade of American terror. And no justice due for the American War Criminals who lead your country down that dark path.
Dia on 13/9/2011 at 11:29
Bush didn't invade Iraq for spite: it was all about the oil. It's tragic that 9/11 (and the whole WMD farce) was used as an excuse to allow U.S. companies to gain oil rights in that country.
"Alan Greenspan, the former Federal Reserve chairman, said in an interview that the removal of Saddam Hussein had been "essential" to secure world oil supplies, a point he emphasized to the White House in private conversations before the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Additionally, in his memoir, Mr. Greenspan writes: "I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil."
Can anyone say 'Halliburton'?
icemann on 13/9/2011 at 17:54
Things like 9/11 are times in your life that you never forget. It's one of those times where you remember where you were and what you were doing.
In my case it was around 10:20pm (from memory) here in Melbourne and I happened to have the television on in my room as Star Trek - The Next Generation re-runs were always on that day (was a Monday I think could be wrong). There was some crappy show on before Star Trek was about to start that I wasn't paying attention to when suddenly the tv suddenly switched the coverage of what was unfolding. They were reporting on an "accident" involving a plane hitting one of the twin towers, then a minute later the second one hit and I was just in total shock. Don't have any other word for what I recall feeling at that time. I then went and woke my parents and told them of what had happened and this may by the start of World War 3. It sure as hell seemed like it at that moment.
At the time of the attacks I worked in a moderately tall building in the city (Melbourne CBD). I was terrified to go into work the morning following the attack, out of fear of what was unfolding and where the next attack would be. I went to work anyway. Much of the rest of that week is hazy. Though one further event I do recall.
The desk I sat at each day/night was next to a window that you could see down into the city street bellow from. On one of the mornings that week there was a chemical warfare scare in a building directly across the street and a bunch of police in chemical warfare suits showed up. I'd never seen police dressed like that outside of television and movies before that. From what I know that turned out to be a false alarm. That was a very scary week. I remember seeing on television that week scenes of Muslim women from Palestine (from memory) dancing the streets with joy on news of the attack. I remember being very angry when I saw that footage. Still remember that quite clearly (bad side to having a photographic memory).
I remember also seeing on television of a few Australian stars of various things (Anthony Mundine a popular boxer of the time here for one example) saying that America had had it coming, and who were immediately vilified by the press and public. Mundine copped a ban from boxing for 6 months (from memory) for his words.
Other than that what I remember most of that period of time, the remainder of that year was in how crazy everyone went (myself included). I'd barely met a Muslim person in my life at that point in time and suddenly everyone was terrified of plane attacks, car bombings, train attacks, not wanting to sit near Muslim people on the train etc. That whole time period was just one big crazy period of time. I remember myself posting on these very forums during that time that America should go and nuke Afghanistan since the Taliban refused to give up Al Qaeda to the US Military. Words that in retrospect I regret.
Present day I'm currently dating a girl who happens to be Muslim (I'm Christian) and who I later hope to marry if all goes right in time. Many of us are guilty of judging an entire religion of people based on the actions of the extreme minority when this occurred, just as others have done on other groups throughout history. I know that I am guilty of that, at the time.
If anything good at all has come from this it has been in the world as a whole learning more about Muslim people in general and that the ways in which Al Qaeda think are not how the vast majority of Muslims think. If anything most Muslims would like to see every Al Qaeda terrorist rounded up and shot as much as the rest of us do. If this had all happened the opposite way round I wonder how differently this all would have went.
10 years ago Osama Bin Laden attempted to start World War 3 (or a World War 3 of sorts) of all other religions vs Islam. Fast forward to present day and he is dead, most of his generals and troops (the original ones) are dead and his plan failed. Whilst his actions did cause a World War 3 of sorts it was more of a "War on Terror" than the rest of the World vs Islam.
And on that I am happy that he did not achieve his aims. Too many people have died from a war started by a crazy person (Osama). I hope that one day we can return to the way things were before this all happened, even though at the same time I know that that is impossible. But here's one hoping.
Boxsmith on 13/9/2011 at 19:32
Quote Posted by Forever420
the 2000's, one of the most horrific decades of our time. It saw the rise of the murdering beast Bush, who invades a country for spite and gives no heeds to the piles of corprses, of the innocent women and children, who were murdered for his capitalist crusade. No heed or remorse for the thousands of innocent Americans sacrificed to give rise to a global crusade of American terror. And no justice due for the American War Criminals who lead your country down that dark path.
hahahah oh man you are like every vancouver stereotype I've ever heard
Pyrian on 13/9/2011 at 19:37
Quote Posted by PeeperStorm
...Carter... In particular, you can thank him for ... emboldening the Soviets to invade Afghanistan...
Well, kudos to him for effectively bringing down the Soviet Union. :D
june gloom on 13/9/2011 at 22:18
Quote Posted by Boxsmith
hahahah oh man you are like every vancouver stereotype I've ever heard
The name Forever420 doesn't help him at all, does it?
PeeperStorm on 14/9/2011 at 03:27
Quote Posted by Forever420
the 2000's, one of the most horrific decades of our time. It saw the rise of the murdering beast Bush, who invades a country for spite and gives no heeds to the piles of corprses, of the innocent women and children, who were murdered for his capitalist crusade. No heed or remorse for the thousands of innocent Americans sacrificed to give rise to a global crusade of American terror. And no justice due for the American War Criminals who lead your country down that dark path.
Make up your mind. Was it for no reason, for capitalism, or for a crusade to create terror?