Another thread about upgrading Thief 1 / Gold!

Sad Git on 1/10/2008 at 22:43

I have recently returned once again to Thief 1 and have been spending some time combing through the various threads about upgrading the graphics. I notice a number of people were like me somewhat confused by the variety of options on offer, so I've tried to collate what I have managed to figure out into one handy list...

(It's best to follow each step in order, and test the game after every one.)

1: Install Thief. Make sure it is patched up to v1.33. (http://thief-thecircle.com/download.asp?fid=264)

2: Obtain and install the Darkloader. Run it and choose the "optimise Thief" option when prompted during configuration. (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108786&highlight=darkloader)

3: Obtain and install timeslip's ddfix. This should make Thief compatible with modern graphics cards/processors and removes long-standing annoyances such as the resolution switch thingy. This also works with Thief 2. (http://timeslip.chorrol.com/ddfix.html)

4: Download and install orgy's texture replacements. This replaces Thief's scenery textures with the improved ones from Thief 2. (http://thief-thecircle.com/download.asp?fid=597)

5: Download and install Daemonite's model replacements. Does as above, but for the models. (http://thief-thecircle.com/download.asp?fid=590)

6: Download and install Nameless voice(+other's) Enhancement Pack. This excellent pack further improves many of the objects/models in the game, and is also compatible with Thief 2. (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118999&highlight=enhancement+pack)

This process also works for Thief 2, except that steps 4 and 5 should be skipped. Also for Thief 2 you will want to look at the NTEX high-res scenery textures (sadly Thief 1 apparently cannot handle higher resolution scenery.) (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119451)

Phew! I think this is everything, and I've tested it on my PC. Each download should come with it's own readme for installation. Please add further to this list if I have overlooked something. :)

Yandros on 2/10/2008 at 00:24

That's a very nice summary! I still have to get around to installing TG on my new PC sometime, and will refer to this thread for links and order.

nickie on 2/10/2008 at 07:14

Just what I needed as well. I hesitate to owning up to being a complete **** when it comes to working out what to do with various things, but I do struggle sometimes.

I recently had to reinstall TMA and it was a nightmare trying to remember what worked with what and what I'd done before. I know it's all in the FAQ but things have moved on since it was written and there's other stuff to use these days.

Go2doug on 2/10/2008 at 20:38

I also had problems gettings Thief Gold to run properly on my system (XP SP3, Nvidia 8600 GTS, 1280 x 1024 resolution).

After much experimentation, I came up with a method of properly installing Thief Gold that is only slightly different than yours (I installed DDfix before optimizing with Dark Loader).

1. Install Thief with the -lgntforce switch.
2. Install the DDFix.
3. Install DarkLoader and let it optimize the TG installation.
4. Install Daeomonite's Thief 1 & Gold AI Mesh & Skin Patch (TGA Version).
5. Install Orgy's Thief Gold Texture Patch (Hardware Version).
6. Install Nameless Voice's Thief Enhancement Pack.

Regarding the subject of "modernizing" Thief I and II to bring it closer to modern PC gaming standards, you might want to read through my post here:

(http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122944)

YuSeF on 3/10/2008 at 18:03

Very nice collection of sources you have. I recently have had the urge to replay Thief/gold/ and Thief II. I found it was very troublesome to get everything you have posted here. Good job and thanks.

On another note, I cannot get "-lgntforce" to work with Thief TDP, although it does work with Thief Gold and Thief II. Is there any other way to get around the game not installing?

Ghost on 9/10/2008 at 19:39

hmm i might have to try some of this, i recently attempted to reinstall and gave up trying to get it to work on xp. Hooray for second pc which i loaded 98 on and it works fine there anyway but i may try this just to see.

Blith_Erring_Idio on 17/10/2008 at 02:53

I would like to know how to install Orgy's mesh pack on Thief Gold. There are only three folders in the file and HiPoly, txt, and txt16. They extracted into my root but I do not think that is right.

Additionally, when I was installing the enhancement pack it said the menu tree should be this Thief/fam/yaddayadda

my thief install folder is named ThiefG, so it looks like ThiefG/fam/yaddayadda will this cause a problem?

after following the load order and doing all the instructions my blackjack arm still looks like the old version. Thanks for any help. it is cool to have this game up and running again....

poroshin on 17/10/2008 at 15:58

Don't forget the Widescreen Patch.

Blith_Erring_Idio on 23/10/2008 at 17:03

Quote Posted by Blith_Erring_Idio

Can anyone help with this? Thank you.

Sad Git on 23/10/2008 at 20:39

Quote Posted by Blith_Erring_Idio

I'm not an expert but I'll give it a try.

Just to clarify, I used Daemonite's meshes and Orgy's textures. I'm not sure if there is an Orgy mesh pack as well, or if that was a typo.

Using Gold should not be a barrier, just a case of changing the install path to ThiefG.

The readme that comes with Daemonite's meshes gives the following instructions:-

"(Start with clean Thief 1/Gold. Install and optimise with Darkloader.)

1: Extract the patch to your Thief folder, making sure to "use folder names". Your Thief folder should now have three new subfolders (mesh, motions, and obj) with various files within each one.

2: In your Thief folder, open up dark.cfg with Notepad and add a line with the following text: ObjTextures16
- Save and close the file.

3: Launch the game and make sure to set Hardware On and Character Detail: High in the options menu. You are now ready to play Thief with improved models."