june gloom on 11/6/2009 at 19:09
If it's a game that requires Steam, such as a Valve game or FEAR 2, I buy it in a box anyway. Exceptions would be Counterstrike: Condition Zero and Red Orchestra. I just like having the box, and sometimes I end up paying less for it than I would if I bought it over Steam.
Sometimes I end up paying more, but that's okay.
EvaUnit02 on 20/8/2009 at 10:47
So the Interplay catalogue is now available on Steam. Not only are titles more expensive, but it naturally comes with Steamworks DRM. Honestly you'd have to a certified idiot and/or a total Valve fanboy to prefer these releases over those on GOG.com.
Yakoob on 20/8/2009 at 20:19
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
So the Interplay catalogue is now available on Steam. Not only are titles more expensive, but it naturally comes with Steamworks DRM. Honestly you'd have to a certified idiot and/or a total Valve fanboy to prefer these releases over those on GOG.com.
Or not a paranoid freak.
gunsmoke on 20/8/2009 at 20:25
I agree with EvaUnit02, though I wouldn't go as far as to say those with an opposing viewpoint are "certified idiot"(s).
No DRM>Steam DRM any day. +, supporting Gog.com>supporting VALVe.
*the above post is 'IMHO'
SubJeff on 20/8/2009 at 20:30
Are some people against DRM because its DRM the same was as the KKK hate blacks because they are black?
I'm no fan of DRM if it affects the way I use a product but I get the impression some people hate it just because. The DRM in BioShock was, ahem, shocking and I know that other titles have essentially knacked things up for legit users. But how does Steam DRM affect anyone? Seriously, I don't get it.
inselaffe on 20/8/2009 at 20:41
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Are some people against DRM because its DRM the same was as the KKK hate blacks because they are black?
That is the most pigheaded, ignorant and undoubtedly worst analogy in world ever :thumb:
Zygoptera on 20/8/2009 at 21:13
Aren't people who make preposterous, moronic and hyperbolic analogies just like Hitler?
SubJeff on 20/8/2009 at 21:40
Ah ha ha, ha. ha. ha
Until I see a reason it's just frothing. I'm asking because that's what I see. People hear there is DRM of any sort and I WILL NEVAH BUY FORM THIS COMPANY AGAIN comes out. There is rarely a cogent reason just that "It'd DRM, innit?"
Hence the KKK comparison. Which was also meant partly in jest but you guys had to bring urine to the bonfire.
If you can't answer why Steam DRM is an issue you aren't helping and I suggest you shut up and wait for someone with an opinion on the matter to show up.
Renzatic on 20/8/2009 at 22:09
For the most part, the average response to any DRM issues is mostly kneejerk reaction first, thought later....if ever.
While I'm not exactly the biggest DRM hater around, I am a bit suspicious of it. Even Steam, which I use fairly regularly, and seems to be a bit kinder than the rest. We're basically renting/licensing software now, and that license to play the games we paid $50 for can be revoked on a whim. You don't have that security, that feeling of investment, you got when grabbing an old game on a CD back in the day. I like to think that what I buy now will be playable 10 years from now. Like Unreal. I bought it back in 98, and I can still play it without a hitch 11 years later. Can I do that with Bionic Commando Rearmed? Trine? Half-Life 2? Will they keep the verification servers up that long? Will they release a patch so the paying customers can play it without said verification? I have no idea, and I am a bit doubtful most publishers will go through the effort to ensure I can.
CCCToad on 20/8/2009 at 22:28
The prices are hit or miss. For example, being able to buy both freedom force games for seven dollars was a good one, while the aformentioned quake is too high.
On a side note, I saw a box copy Freedom Force vs the 3rd reich selling with a tag of 34.95 less than a week ago. The people running that store are clearly out of their minds. Not surprisingly, its the same copy thats been sitting there for over a year.
