Fenris on 27/5/2009 at 12:55
As Garrett himself says, you just can't go wrong with heavily armed fanatics. Just make sure to brush up on your diplomacy first.
As for pagans, sure they're an interesting faction, but I prefer to study the dead specimens.
Thor on 27/5/2009 at 13:21
Of course pagan. It's hardly a question. Hammerites are just evilll.. :(
Ok and i like trees, i hug them sometimes...
Jilly The Taffer on 29/5/2009 at 16:19
I have to say Pagans also :D
I've always seen them as friendly, harmless folk since MA, Trail of Blood.
Poor little Lily with her Dewdrop doll.
But yeh, anyway. I'll always like the Pagans more than the Hammers.
Pagan ghost: I knows it was here...I knows it....
Mechanist ghost: Looking for this, vile heathen?
Pagan ghost: My scythe! Gives it here....
Mechanist ghost: Ha! Gladly, Pagan...gladly....
Poor guy... :erm:
Maddermadcat on 29/5/2009 at 21:46
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I've always seen them as friendly, harmless folk since MA, Trail of Blood.
TDS changed them quite a bit, didn't it? :(
I liked the pagans pre-TDS because, though they seemed harmless, their voices, manners of speech and writings gave them this vicious and wild kind of creepy undertone, whereas TDS made them seem violent and vengeful. They weren't encountered in TDP really, but the way they were depicted made them seem a lot creepier. I'm guessing TMA made them seem harmless to make the player sympathize with them more.
zaya92 on 29/5/2009 at 23:22
It seems we have a lot of people on the pagan side. But no one mentions the number of hammers they killed in thief 1 and their cathedral that they destroyed by waking up the dead.
JonesCrusher on 29/5/2009 at 23:47
I'd go with the hammers...never a dull moment, and I like a man in uniform :ebil:
Peanuckle on 30/5/2009 at 03:34
Quote Posted by zaya92
It seems we have a lot of people on the pagan side. But no one mentions the number of hammers they killed in thief 1 and their cathedral that they destroyed by waking up the dead.
Well, the cathedral incident was presumably caused by the Eye, AFAIK. As for the invasion in T1, the Trickster was in the final stages of his plan to take final revenge on the hammers for casting him out in the ancient past. So really, it was a blow-for-blow on a large timescale.
And think of all the pagans that have been killed or otherwise injured by the hammers during their long era of dominance. Pagans may worship a god that ultimately feeds on them, but massacring unarmed people simply for their religious beliefs is never a good thing.
Beleg Cúthalion on 30/5/2009 at 07:25
If I was a religious fanatic I'd also say that my violence is part of a big revenge. :p I think what TDS finally did well was to establish both factions as practically (morally) equal.
Platinumoxicity on 30/5/2009 at 19:51
Quote Posted by zaya92
It seems we have a lot of people on the pagan side. But no one mentions the number of hammers they killed in thief 1 and their cathedral that they destroyed by waking up the dead.
I agree what Peanuckle said. The Hammerites tried to use the Eye for their selfish needs and the Eye made the zombies, destroyed the cathedral and a large portion of the City around it. The Eye seems to have nothing to do with the pagans, and pagans absolutely have nothing to do with raising the dead. That's necromancers to you. :) The pagans only have earth magics and wild monsters at their side. The never-seen necromancers or some other mysterious force or disease are the cause of the zombies.
Jah on 30/5/2009 at 19:53
Quote Posted by Platinumoxicity
pagans absolutely have nothing to do with raising the dead.
There is a pagan in TDS who does exactly that.
