Yorkist on 22/5/2007 at 08:21
Glad to know that others share the sentiment at least. As for that comment about the city being industrial with a hint of Victorian...very apt. Give me that over this consumerism gone crazy any day. BTW, I loved deadly shadows but I noticed that the odd thing was that it was a dark age environment (save for the cradle) coming away from what was beginning to look like an industrial city. I always explained it to myself as technology being discredited after the mechanist fiasco. If only that could happen now. So I gather this urban spread is all over? I live in the northwest suburbs of Chicago and I was wondering where I should migrate to. We had a minature poodle eaten by coyotes just last week. I love dogs, but I really could not sympathize with the minature poodle. Besides coyotes dont usually go for real dogs. (Sorry to all the mini poodle fans...but get a dane) You know the funny thing about all these people wanting to live in the country...when they all come out here, its not the country anymore. Put a few trees in the backyards of these people and they think they are roughing it out.
Yorkist on 22/5/2007 at 08:44
Thanks for that link ganac. Me and my friend used to explore our share of abandoned buildings and its nice to know that others share the same hobby. We had alot of stories as well, some funny, some interesting, some downright freaky. All the places have been torn down now...thank god I got some photographs. The cool thing is that I captured something that does not exist anymore. I would post them but I am a bit of a luddite...I dont even have internet access at home. The only reason why I have a computer is for papers (and thief of course) I venture into places in Chicago but its mostly on my own...and some places are risky to get into. Once again its encouraging to hear other people see the same thing. Guess thats in part why we like to play the same game. Thief does sort of speak to that "part" of you. The closing soundtrack to deadly shadows alone made the game all worth it. A fine finale to what I consider to be the finest game series ever made.
Dia on 22/5/2007 at 12:54
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So I gather this urban spread is all over? I live in the northwest suburbs of Chicago and I was wondering where I should migrate to. We had a minature poodle eaten by coyotes just last week. .....Besides coyotes dont usually go for real dogs.
I live about 35 mi. north of Chicago and it really, truly
was a very rural area up here until about 7-8 yrs ago. Thank God the current zoning law in my immediate area doesn't allow subdivisions of under 5 acres per home. Unfortunately, as I said above, that's only on my side of the road and suburbia is starting to encroach from the east and north. Where should you go? Don't know about you, but I'm thinking of heading further north. It's getting too crowded around these parts. Don't want to go too far; then you trade the coyotes for the bears and an occasional cougar.
Coyotes? Omg! We've got packs of 'em up here and barn cats disappear on a regular basis (which is causing the squirrel, rat, and mouse populations to explode) and yes, they will attack even a larger dog if they're hunting in a pack. As well as very small children. It's really eerie hearing them close by at night, howling when a train comes through.
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You know the funny thing about all these people wanting to live in the country...when they all come out here, its not the country anymore. Put a few trees in the backyards of these people and they think they are roughing it out.
Tell me about it! Most of the people in the 'burbs to the south have all migrated from one city or another because they want the 'country life'. Seems the first thing most of them do is start complaining about living out here. A lot of them are surprised to discover we have ordinances and laws just like in the city. Noise: yes, you
will get ticketed if the pipes on your bike/car are too loud. Animal control: yes, you
have to keep your pets in your own yard. Driving ANY vehicle while intoxicated: yes, you
will get arrested if you go tearing around on our lakes drunk as a lord in your boat or on your snowmobile in the winter. Lack of public transportation: NO! We do NOT have subways or the 'L' and most rural roads don't have public bus stops. Insect control: who's gonna pay to have such a large rural area 'sprayed' for mosquitos & ticks? I sure as hell don't want
my taxes hiked up just because you don't like using insect repellent.
You're absolutely right Yorkist. Pretty soon it'll just be one huge suburb of Chicago. How very sad. And annoying.
Palantir on 22/5/2007 at 13:40
Well, 'tis true that the pace of urbanization is a little bit too... fast, but after all, living in a city is more comfortable and convenient than living on countryside, well, IMO.
The problem is that the development of the city brings trouble to local ecosystem, while ironically the urban ecosystem is dependant.
Hrmph, for those who lives in urban area and dreamed of living in suburban...
I should say...
People are just unsatisfying....:rolleyes:
(Sorry, bad English... Grammar correction is welcome)
platz on 22/5/2007 at 17:34
Hi Yorkist, that's a nice topic.
I know Thief has been my most replayed game(s) also because of the philosophical background especially the dialogs in T2. The saying about the disappearing trees did struck me years ago as well :erg:
I guess both Mechanists/Pagans are two extreme points of view, but if I had to choose I would be on the Pagan side (I LOVE native American culture & way of life).
Here in big citys of France trees are often being replaced by advertising (using paper !) and sometimes when I am looking at a street I try to imagine it whitout advertising or traffic signals. Believe me, it gets close to the City of Dark Project ;)
As for abandonned houses and ruins, I do have the same feeling, even if I never really asked myself why I do love them.
Funny thing, playing Thief for some days again, I realized that I got the SAME excitement as when I used to play "cache-cache minuit" (hide & seek (?) in houses at night) when I was a kid...it's still there :D
R Soul on 22/5/2007 at 18:40
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It's a series of stores/shops that are linked together like row houses that share a common parking lot/ car park.
Not a brothel then.
SlyFoxx on 22/5/2007 at 20:33
Nope....you could try T2X...about 3/4 of the way through.:p
Goldmoon Dawn on 22/5/2007 at 21:46
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So I gather this urban spread is all over? I live in the northwest suburbs of Chicago and I was wondering where I should migrate to.
I live in Kenosha WI, just north of Chicago. I was figuring at some point I would move up by baraboo, near places friends have had for years. Then, when I'm 60 - 80 it's off to be a Canuck once and for all. If the planet is still here. If the human race is still here. :p
imperialreign on 22/5/2007 at 21:47
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Coyotes? Omg! We've got packs of 'em up here and barn cats disappear on a regular basis (which is causing the squirrel, rat, and mouse populations to explode) and yes, they will attack even a larger dog if they're hunting in a pack. As well as very small children. It's really eerie hearing them close by at night, howling when a train comes through
it's from all the encroachment from suburbia overtaking the rural areas . . . all the wildlife have nowhere to go. We have a similar issue here; although I live more into the "city" (I spent most of my time growing up in the rural areas where most of my friends still live, our city is really just one big suburb, no urban-urban areas) . . . but there have been an increasing number of deer herds moving closer to the few undeveloped areas around here, plus an increasing number of raccoons, 'possum, foxes and other wildlife moving into the city areas that usually end up as road kill. I was really shocked and disappointed the first time I saw a fox only about a mile from my home, and they scare so easily . . .
