Artifacts, again. And the Builder.

theBlackman on 23/3/2006 at 19:50

Quote Posted by Cardel

Hmm, I have never heard the heart's voice, only the hoarse whisper of the eye. What do you do to get her to speak?

Bring flowers. :)

Cardel on 23/3/2006 at 19:54

Quote Posted by theBlackman

Bring flowers. :)

A box of stolen chocolates, too? :laff:

Swiss Mercenary on 2/4/2006 at 10:47

Quote Posted by T-Smith

They could be. However, in a conversation in St. Edgar's, it's mentioned that the last time the Chalice was used was 50 years ago, but Master Forger Alabus - and when he drank from it, he too burst into flames.

Maybe he wasn't pieous enough, hm?

Clyp on 5/4/2006 at 13:24

St.Edgar's prayer says something among the lines of "Builder, grant me the strength to defeat my foes or grant me death by your hand, for my foes shall not have me." After that, he drinks from the Chalice and pwns the Pagans.
Anyway, the prayer itself leads me to think that Edgar was well aware that the Chalice kills, and considers it to be the Builder's decision wheter you live after sipping from it.

Quote Posted by Cardel

But then again, if the Trickster can exist, why not the builder?

Indeed.

Cardel on 5/4/2006 at 14:40

Hmm, perhaps the old priest had no real foes, since the pagans werent too strong at that point (before the trickster comes) so he was granted death as not to be killed by the coming Trickster?

bloodangel1977 on 5/4/2006 at 18:11

One of the texts in her lair mentions that there were sacrifices made to the Sentients.
Maybe they are keepers who willingly sacrificed themselves to become the failsafe.

Cardel on 6/4/2006 at 20:08

Maybe... that could make sence, like the keepers spirit enhabiting the sentients to make them sentient. I guess the eye was a pretty crabby old guy :laff:

Holywhippet on 10/4/2006 at 00:41

Quote Posted by bloodangel1977

One of the texts in her lair mentions that there were sacrifices made to the Sentients.
Maybe they are keepers who willingly sacrificed themselves to become the failsafe.

That makes me wonder. The idea was that the sentients would stay apart until they were needed to activate the final glyph. Since the Pagans already had the Jacknall's Paw, perhaps the chalice thought "If the Hammerites lose here then I'm going to be in the hands of the Pagans and that is not acceptable". So instead of killing Edgar it gave him a power boost.

Cardel on 10/4/2006 at 08:58

Ah yes, thats something we were forgetting, that though the other artifacts cant talk, they can still think. Makes you wonder where a severed hand is linked to it's owner's brain. And what is a Jacknall, anyway?

Holywhippet on 12/4/2006 at 03:44

I don't think it means anything outside of the game as far as I can see. It's probably just something that sounds Paganish. Especially since the Paw itself is the severed hand of the Kurshok King.