Jeshibu on 7/8/2017 at 08:24
Rogue is just more Black Flag without the charm of the characters or tropical setting, but with more gadgets and random events to compensate. You've already slogged through the worst 2 games in the series probably (Revelations and 3), so the rest should be very enjoyable at least. Unity is massively underrated especially. I'm up for co-op in Unity btw, barring irreconcilable timezone differences.
Thirith on 7/8/2017 at 08:43
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Rogue is just more Black Flag without the charm of the characters or tropical setting.
It doesn't have the immediate charm, but I quite liked the change in perspective. It's not as well done as it could have been, but it's still interesting to play on the other side for once.
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Unity is massively underrated especially.
Definitely agree with that. With all the patches (and a good CPU/GPU), I think it's absolutely worth playing, though it has the same weaknesses that all of the games in the franchise have. For me, it was a great return to the grandiose architecture of the first few games, something I very much missed in
Assassin's Creed 3 and
Black Flag.
Sulphur on 7/8/2017 at 08:52
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I'm up for co-op in Unity btw, barring irreconcilable timezone differences.
AND irreconcilable level differences. Hrmph.
Jeshibu on 7/8/2017 at 10:50
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AND irreconcilable level differences. Hrmph.
Hah! Play the singleplayer, mang. It won't bite.
Thirith on 8/2/2018 at 07:49
I started playing Assassin's Creed Origins last weekend, and I'm surprised by how much it's pulled me in. In general, I prefer my Assassin's Creed games to focus on cities with grandiose, intricate architecture; Origins has a lot of wilderness and small settlements, yet somehow I don't mind. The switch from minimap to Witcher 3-style compass seems a small thing, but it works well in making the game feel much less like a protracted feather hunt. Bayek, while out of revenge, feels surprisingly rounded. Most of all, there's a very strong, compelling sense of a place and a time, and for that already I'd enjoy the game. It's odd: Origins doesn't change the game into something entirely different, yet it does feel fresh. I don't know if I'd recommend it to anyone who never liked the series, but I would urge anyone who liked the earlier games but then tired of them to check it out.
SD on 8/2/2018 at 19:51
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I've enjoyed most of the series greatly (even the admittedly weaker instalments like
AC3 and
Unity), but even with the stronger games in the series I got to a point where I was all ACed out. I can't even imagine bingeing on the entire series.
As it happens I've been playing through them all in order recently. I completed the first three years ago, but I wanted to play Revelations and thought I'd refresh my memory a bit. I've just finished ACIII. Next up is Liberation. They're a bit of a slog at times, but whatever the occasional shortcomings in gameplay, it's made up for with the fabulous gameworlds Ubisoft creates.
Jeshibu on 8/2/2018 at 21:35
Revelations felt very rote and bland to me. I thought 3 was the nadir for the series, and the only one I'd consider having more bad than good. I skipped Liberation because I read that it's like 3 only less good.
Sulphur on 9/2/2018 at 09:07
Congratulations on vanquishing the dreaded alot, for however temporary that reprieve is.
AssCreed and in general open-world games feel really artificial to me because they're constructed upon a labyrinth of repetitiveness. GTA eludes that a bit because you can run around and be creative in the process of running around - launch a bike onto a train and take a tour? Why not. Hike up to a mountain and parachute off of it? Sure. Pile up a bunch of cars at an intersection, cause a chain reaction by exploding one of them, and spend the next half hour being dogged by the police? That's like the only metric you need to gauge a GTA with.
AssCreed by comparison layers on inane side-quests* in a pretty transparent bid to give you a reason to explore the environments. It's like no one at Ubi realises most people like exploring at their own pace, without being on a leash. The only ones that are interesting to me are the murder investigations, and it's telling that there aren't many of those -- requires actual unique content from VOs to particular graphical assets be placed in the world, after all.
I invariably get bored with every single AssCreed because even the main missions feel like busywork with added fluff. To wit, I've not finished a single goddamn one of them, and I own almost all of them except for Origins and the likes of Rogue. If we were to gauge the game with the most interesting/worthwhile content, I suppose that'd be Black Flag, so I'm going to make a concerted effort to see the end of it. Anyone have a differing opinion on that?
*E.g., collectathons: feathers, collect anomalies, collect... flying musical notes?, low-effort running competitions, procedurally generated -- wait, I mean randomly generated -- rescue events that never ever stop, sorry random pedestrian being mugged, sorry slave orphans but y'all look alike to me and I saved your asses a hundred times over so just succumb already. Like I care any more. Jesus.
Thirith on 9/2/2018 at 09:08
I'm surprised you're encountering so many bugs, icemann; I can't say that I didn't run into any bugs while playing Syndicate, but definitely nothing game-breaking or even particularly bothersome. With respect to the boxing matches, I found those pretty trivial after a while, and I'm not really great at twitch gameplay. Are you playing on PC or on one of the consoles?
Sulphur: I like the series, I've played most of the games to completion (story completion, that is - I don't think I 100% any of them), but I can't really disagree with you. It's more that I mind the negatives less, or I'm better able to ignore them, while enjoying the positives more. Origins feels least like it's trying to incentivise you to explore through shallow gameplay, mind you, at least so far. In terms of more interesting activities, I quite liked the Syndicate music boxes, where you have a picture of a location and you have to find it due to the landmarks and how they relate to each other spacially. I'm not as big a fan of Black Flag as many others, but I liked its story and characters, more than the new gameplay elements.
henke on 9/2/2018 at 09:27
Yeah I can't recall any significant bugs in AC Syndicate either, on PS4. Then again I hear the Ubigames are generally more buggy on PC.
I'll still probably pick up Origins at some point. I'm not super-interested in the setting, but I am looking forward to seeing the new gameplay tweaks.