Henri The Hammer on 17/4/2008 at 19:17
I don't run anti-virus in the background :cheeky: It uses too much cpu and ram. Besides, I'm using Firefox with AdBlock and NoScript and I never download anything... shady, so I think I'm pretty safe. :)
I have a right to hate Steam, and I will. I would have no problem if you could play your bought games outside of Steam. Let's say that Valve would go out of business (although that's very unlikely), or they could just say that they'd close Steam... What would happen then? Bye bye games. :devil: I don't want that, I want more freedom, this is PC afterall. If I buy a game, I want to play it anyway and anywhere I want. Like Mount & Blade for example.
june gloom on 18/4/2008 at 00:25
Quote Posted by Henri The Hammer
I don't run anti-virus in the background :cheeky: It uses too much cpu and ram. Besides, I'm using Firefox with AdBlock and NoScript and I never download anything... shady, so I think I'm pretty safe. :)
I have a right to hate Steam, and I will. I would have no problem if you could play your bought games outside of Steam. Let's say that Valve would go out of business (although that's
very unlikely), or they could just say that they'd close Steam... What would happen then? Bye bye games. :devil: I don't want that, I want more freedom, this
is PC afterall. If I buy a game, I want to play it anyway and anywhere I want. Like Mount & Blade for example.
You're right, you do have a legitimate concern when it comes to needing Steam to play. However, I find it highly unlikely that Valve would ever shut down Steam- it's been far too successful, and more than that, it's become a model that other developers are adopting- see Steamworks. On top of that, in the bloody unlikely case that Valve
did shut down Steam, they'd find some way to save everyone's accounts so they can continue to play HL2 or whatever without needing Steam.
So you can let your fears get in the way of playing some really great Steam-exclusive games (that by and large you
can buy in a box), or you can get over it. Or you can just quit playing games, period, because Steam and Steam-like systems are where game publishing is going to go.
Also, if you don't have a decent anti-virus running in the background you deserve to get a virus.
[edit] AFiH is bitching at me so I'll clarify- I don't mean a full-on virus scan, I mean a simple AV that watches for and detects incoming virii. NOD32 does this with a very small footprint.
Henri The Hammer on 18/4/2008 at 00:57
[rant]Yes, it is unlikely that Valve would ever shut down Steam. But
IF they would shut down Steam, they
could say "tough luck, you can kiss your games goodbye" and nobody could do anything about it. THAT worries me. Back in the 90's (and early 00's), you went to the store, bought the game and then you could do whatever you wanted to do with it. Steam limits this tremendously. I want more freedom! I bought the game dammit, I shouldn't be more limited of using it than those who pirated it. That's the problem, if you pirate for example Half-Life 2, you can actually run it better and you have more freedom. It's the same with copy protection systems and cd-checks. There's no need for those, AT ALL. They will not stop people from pirating the game. They never haven't and they never will. So why do we people who actually buy the games have to suffer? It's like the developers say: "Yeah, yeah, you bought the game, good for you... Now everybody let's focus on how to make StarForce version 24423.85b so that it takes 2 seconds longer to crack it!" :mad: I bet in the future, when you buy the game, you get 10 malware programs that constantly check if you have any program installed that could copy/emulate discs, and then delete them if they find them, then you have to have the DVD in drive when you start the game and during the game since it constantly checks every 5 seconds that if the DVD is in the drive... THEN, it would also run Steam on the background and auto-update the game every 10 minutes since the developers in the future are so lazy that every game has to have 100000 patches before it even manages to run. Oh, and you have to re-enter the serial number every time you start the game, so that it can check on the internet if the same serial number has been used on another PC, and if it has been used, it formats your hard drive because you are a pirate!
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Also, if you don't have a decent anti-virus running in the background you deserve to get a virus.
Why? I check every file that's even slightly suspicious with my anti-virus, but I don't want to keep it running in the background since it uses so much processing power, and keeps killing some of my games. And I've never, NEVER had a virus infection. So what's the problem? :erg:
Edit: Ah, you meant a program like that... Well, my other PC has Antivir running all the time. But my main PC is usually "unguarded" since F-Secure is such a power hog and I just don't feel like installing anything else.
june gloom on 18/4/2008 at 01:29
Uh.
I think at this point you need to find another hobby.
Henri The Hammer on 18/4/2008 at 11:23
Sorry. I was kinda mad. :(
Gambit on 23/4/2008 at 03:28
Ooohhh... Try "Fiesta Pagana" from the band "Mago de Oz". It´s celtic music with spanish letters and the rythm blends well. Very weird.
And obviously Black Sabbath´s Iron Man. During the start I could feel Iron Man stomping the race... Lol
Shadowcat on 23/11/2013 at 13:20
Hey. DRM-free Audiosurf (at long last?!), and right now you can grab it for $1 from:
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https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/audiosurf_storefront)
(and having bought and played it from there, I can confirm it's just like it says on the label, so well worth a dollar IMHO. I look forward to getting back into this game... It was a pretty fun way to listen to music, and I don't recall seeing anything better in the interim.)
Muzman on 23/11/2013 at 13:41
There were quite a few around, but I don't know how many were any good.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/15540/) 1..2..3..Kick It! looked like a pretty good one (not that they ever seem to have gotten around to finishing it).
The problem I found with this sort of thing is there's rarely much proper game there. They kind of rest very heavily on you liking your own music (well, duh, I guess) and looking enough like a score attack game to keep people who like that sort of thing amused.
There's nothing particularly wrong with that, but I need more structure.
Shadowcat on 23/11/2013 at 13:59
Yeah, for me that was the key thing -- if you're listening to music you like, you're already having a good time :)
In fact, I always played it on the easiest setting so that the game didn't really punish me for making mistakes, because all I really wanted was enhanced (or modified) enjoyment of the song I was listening to, and I found that in-game punishment interfered with that. So for me, the music was very much the priority over the game.
Kick It was the only other one that sprang to my mind, and AFAIK they're still trying to figure out how to make it fun. Good on them for not just releasing something rubbish, at least (and taking a peek at Dejobaan's site, it seems like they're seeing the light at the end of the tunnel on this project).
