gunsmoke on 25/9/2011 at 09:04
JESUS, Vernon. At first glance, I thought to myself "Eh, it'll get itself sorted out quickly, EA is putting a lot of faith in the Origin service. They won't let an entire territory slip past them for long".
Then I read further and discovered that it has been a reported issue/bug for over 6 months!
Inexcusable
june gloom on 25/9/2011 at 09:43
Holy fuck that's some piss-poor support.
TTK12G3 on 25/9/2011 at 19:02
Why oh why are they trying to deploy this shit on the eve of a major release?
Sulphur on 25/9/2011 at 19:16
The same reason why Valve chose HL2 to deploy Steam - to force you down the path they want you to go with an ultra-mega show stopper of a title, so that their install base is large enough to gain visibility in the digital distro market.
Now that they want to go toe-to-toe with Valve, who got there first, they're just taking the same tack.
june gloom on 25/9/2011 at 19:26
Except Valve has the business savvy needed to make Steam the giant it is today. EA do not.
Sulphur on 25/9/2011 at 19:31
Never said they did. EA's got the cajones, but unfortunately, what goes along with that is they're also a bunch of cocks. However, I'd welcome a little serious competition if only because a market monopoly's not the greatest thing for the consumer.
Steam'll win out if they remain the good guys, so they've got nothing much to fear.
Matthew on 25/9/2011 at 20:24
Origin can die in a fire for its lack of Mac support.
/beret and Gauloises
Yakoob on 27/9/2011 at 07:59
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Except Valve has the business savvy needed to make Steam the giant it is today. EA do not.
You mean EA the de-facto gaming industry giant who's one of the most financially successful companies in this biz?
Yea, they aren't business savvy at all...
june gloom on 27/9/2011 at 08:53
I'd like to say I don't remember you being this fucking dense but (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137042) that would be lying.
EA may be successful on the traditional business model, but they have
not had a good reputation the last
decade, have lost a lot of good faith among buyers (despite the fact that yes, some of the games they develop/publish are quite good) and generally seem to be, like many companies, generally going about the altered playing field (altered by, if you want to sum it all up in one word, the internet) rather incompetently. Origin will be no different, as evidenced by their behaviour thus far regarding it. They don't seem to understand that Steam got to where it is now by taking digital distribution by the horns and becoming not just a platform for Valve's games, but a form of access to hundreds of games, and making that access even easier via the ridiculously insane sales that occur at least twice a week. If EA wants to make Origin a competitor to Steam or even the distant seconds, it needs to be more than a platform for EA games. But they won't do that, because they're focused on beating out the competition (why else does Origin even exist except to compete with Steam) and instead are only beating out the customers.
Yakoob on 27/9/2011 at 09:26
Aye, now that you clarified your points I do agree with you. I was just taken aback by the fact that you called the de-facto (
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2007/apr/10/top100gamesc) top profiting in the inudstry for years and which today accounts for roughly (
http://kotaku.com/5145881/so-whats-eas-market-share-like-these-days) 1/5th of the entire game industry not business-savy. Yea they're not the top dogs they used to be and had significant faux-pas in the past few years, but at least when it comes to raping their customer base to maximize profits in the traditional sense, they know their game. They are still fairly new to the e-model and yes they are lacking there, but who knows - it might be exactly the popularity and hype of B3 that will give them the edge and push what otherwise might be a laughable and annoying online DRM scheme into a valid competitor against steam.
Don't forget Steam sucked maaaajor ass during its initial release, and it was the games that prevented its early death. B3 today (with CoD) are to the FPS industry what CS used to be back in the day, pulling large fanbases that will jump on whatever just to keep playing the next super awesome installment of their favorite neurotic trigger-puller. Remember the whole CoD:MW2 boycott group and how everyone pretty much turned around and still got the game? I predict the same will happen with B3/Origin. And once it settles in a bit, what's EA preventing from turning Origin into multi-game/multi-company service? Again, Steam took a while to build its catalog as well.
If anything, Origin isn't an anti-thesis of Steam; it is its direct parallel. Granted, I do agree EA are dumb in the sense they should have learned from Steam's mistakes instead of choosing to repeat the same process. But hey, it worked for Valve, so maybe it will work out for EA too...
