daemonicky on 2/10/2011 at 15:43
I beilieve it was in Making Of, that I heard (or read somewhere else), that religious texts introducing missions were inspired by texts in Bible. Which parts of bible are these? Can somebody tell?
Thank You wery much. :)
jtr7 on 2/10/2011 at 16:40
It's rarely direct, more of the flavor of religion than the Bible itself, with extra attention to condemnation and discipline and severe punishment. It's not mentioned in the Making ofs, but scattered through dev interviews and answers to fan questions. The Hammerites were inspired by the Rosicrucians and the darker Inquisition periods of Medieval Catholicism, with the literal aspects of the metaphor of hammering of beliefs upon the masses, while the Mechanists were inspired by the Presbyterian movement and Nazi Germany. It's too loose to pin down, except for hymns like "Hadst I a Hammer," obviously parodying "If I Had a Hammer (The Hammer Song)." With all the hymns, it's possible others are as direct as that one. And of course, all funneled through carpentry and construction metaphors.
Beleg Cúthalion on 2/10/2011 at 19:00
The German "translation" of the TDP intro movie quote from the Book of Stone(s?) contains after the first line (roughly translated as: "You've travelled through darkness but what do you know?") the text of Luke 11:34–35 resp. Matthew 6:22–23.
Goldmoon Dawn on 3/10/2011 at 00:31
Quote Posted by daemonicky
religious texts introducing missions were inspired by texts in Bible. Which parts of bible are these?
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The Hammerites were inspired by the Rosicrucians and the darker Inquisition periods of Medieval Catholicism, with the literal aspects of the metaphor of hammering of beliefs upon the masses
If you really like that kind of stuff, you should play Ultima 5, 6, and 7 ! :ebil:
Independent Thief on 3/10/2011 at 10:49
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It's rarely direct, more of the flavor of religion than the Bible itself, with extra attention to condemnation and discipline and severe punishment. It's not mentioned in the Making ofs, but scattered through dev interviews and answers to fan questions. The Hammerites were inspired by the Rosicrucians and the darker Inquisition periods of Medieval Catholicism, with the literal aspects of the metaphor of hammering of beliefs upon the masses, while the Mechanists were inspired by the Presbyterian movement and Nazi Germany. It's too loose to pin down, except for hymns like "Hadst I a Hammer," obviously parodying "If I Had a Hammer (The Hammer Song)." With all the hymns, it's possible others are as direct as that one. And of course, all funneled through carpentry and construction metaphors.
Having worshiped for a time in a Presbyterian Church, I see little resemblance to the Mechanists. I view the Mechs in T2 as being more of a doomsday cult like Jim Jones or David Koresh.
demagogue on 3/10/2011 at 18:31
Obviously it's all a caricature. I think the more direct inspiration was just the Protestant Reformation generally, except the Luther role was replaced with a psycho cult leader like you say.
jtr7 on 4/10/2011 at 04:59
Inspiration is most often not direct and obvious, in case the strongest sense of the word is confusing points made. :D
Terri Brosius, a main writer in the series, goes to church.
Azaran on 4/10/2011 at 06:01
I always associated the Hammerites with the Catholic church, and the Mechanists with evangelical fundies
daemonicky on 11/10/2011 at 15:17
Thanks to all.
Quote Posted by Goldmoon Dawn
If you really like that kind of stuff, you should play Ultima 5, 6, and 7 ! :ebil:
I know little about the series. What is in Ultima 5,6 or 7? :)
Goldmoon Dawn on 11/10/2011 at 22:10
An abundance of what you were speaking of in the original post! :ebil:
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religious texts introducing missions
