jtr7 on 21/10/2011 at 13:27
From this interview with Steve Pearsall:
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http://web.archive.org/web/20000229231346/http://www.gamesmania.com/english/sneak/new/thief2/thief.htm)
Quote:
All sinners are thieves.
The adulterer steals from the House of Marriage.
The heretic steals from the House of Truth.
The murderer steals from the House of Life.
And so The Builder charged us with a duty:
Take this sacred Hammer
Use it to build thy walls tall and strong
And to rain righteous wrath upon the cursed thieves
And all those who would violate my sacred houses
-The Hammer Book of Tenets
How many references to, Easter Eggs regarding, homages to, and borrowings from other beloved games have you spotted in Thief, GD? No one's compiled them all, and so few are qualified to.
It was embarrassing that I'd never found a mention here of the origins of the Serpentyle Torc, at least in name, though the name and presentation of the fiction for the object clued me in that it wasn't just made up.
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http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71860)
Are there any religious or religious-sounding passages from any Thief faction as a strong nod to Ultima or other ancestral games flowing in Thief's veins?
Goldmoon Dawn on 22/10/2011 at 04:31
Quote Posted by jtr7
How many references to, Easter Eggs regarding, homages to, and borrowings from other beloved games have you spotted in Thief, GD? No one's compiled them all, and so few are qualified to.
And as such, the only true way for me to convey any kept knowledge is to point people to the past. You see, my folks ran a business and I was alone a lot as a child. The computer has been a part of my life since the trs-80. Standing at the gates of dawn as it were, unfolding before me was Wizardry and Ultima as they were just beginning to lift off in the very early 80's. I was 7 years old when I first played Wizardry and Ultima. There was of course a friendly and inspiring rivalry between the first two computer game series. Then, Might and Magic arrived on the scene and "shook things up". Looking Glass soon followed (in hot pursuit!). The point is that for one, such as myself, my first experience of Dark Project as it was released was vastly different than most. The first few minutes of the game quickly set the tone to magnificent effect. They knew that they were stealing all of the power of yesterday and bringing it to modern times. And I knew it too. Intuition and crafty innuendo danced through my mind down every twisting passageway. A glorious realisation of the atmosphere that all the classics had been striving to achieve. By the time I got to the end of Lord Baffords Mansion and was about to steal the sceptre, I couldnt help but think of Lord British and not Lord Bafford. :) In fact, if you cant feel Garriotts (lol) presence throughout most of the game, then you just dont get it at this time. Knives, forks, plates, spoons, bread, levers on and on... LOL The mines under Cragscleft! It may seem obsolete now somehow, but at the time it was absolute genius. It was like you were back in some gritty old Wizardry game except this time you could actually see and hear it like *never* before. It was almost frightening. Garrett isnt the first protagonist to have his eye ripped out... :sly: I wont even begin to crack the lid on Lost City. Anyhoo, as I have said at least several times in the past, The Dark Project truly ended a very special era. True, after Dark we had Ultima IX and Wizardry VIII, still a highly replayable and addictive effort. Hell there was even a Might and Magic IX! :cheeky: Get it? After Dark Project, every last one of the classics folded, one right after the other (Ultima and Might Magic in a rather humorous fashion... much like the tone of Deadly Shadow...). We could write volumes on this subject, but the best bet is to somehow, some way, go back and play some of these ancient classics, and see for yourself what you might find. :ebil:
Keeper Joseph on 22/10/2011 at 15:33
Quote Posted by Azaran
I always associated the Hammerites with the Catholic church, and the Mechanists with evangelical fundies
Yeah. The Hammerites just scream medieval Catholicism, but the Mechanists always reminds me of Mormonism. I used to visit a Mormon family occasionally when I was a kid. ALL of the females in that HUGE family would act just like the female Mechanists. :weird:
