HybridVision on 18/6/2007 at 09:55
Someone else said it best - FO2 feels like a fan-made mod. I played FO2 first and thought it was great, and was then shocked to see that everything in FO2 had already been done in FO. The only real improvement was how they handled NPCs in your party.
Rogue Keeper on 18/6/2007 at 10:10
What to expect from a game developed in less than one year. For that it's an impressive result anyway.
Matthew on 18/6/2007 at 10:25
Quote Posted by Koki
Not if you read Fallout Bible.
I haven't a clue what that is, but there you go.
Rogue Keeper on 18/6/2007 at 11:22
[/happily brainwashed tone]It's a holy book consisting of several scriptures, which has Prophet Avellone wrote for us unworthy sinful commons to follow Fallout as The One Religion and get blessing of the Holy Flame! [/happily brainwashed tone] :angel:
Follow us, brother and be salvaged! (
http://www.duckandcover.cx/index.php?id=5)
Matthew on 18/6/2007 at 13:03
Hold on, what? Surely if it's in the game, it's more canon than the design documents? God, I'm even more confused now.
Koki on 18/6/2007 at 13:29
Quote Posted by BR796164
[/happily brainwashed tone]It's a holy book consisting of several scriptures, which has Prophet Avellone wrote for us unworthy sinful commons to follow Fallout as The One Religion and get blessing of the Holy Flame! [/happily brainwashed tone] :angel:
What he means is that it's a series of documents where Chris Avellone answers questions of the community, plus provides some spiffy concept-stuff(Such as timeline, cut out quests/locations, etc.).
Rogue Keeper on 18/6/2007 at 13:37
You don't get it, heretic. Chris Avellone is the ultimate Fallout prophet. Son of the Holy Flame! He spreads the Word of the Atomic God for our happiness and revelation!
Seriously. In the Bible Chris clears up several inconsistencies that were bugging fans for some time. As one of the designers of F2 and a less significant member of F1 team, the community believes he has a good insight into Fallout world. And he really has. Think of him as Tolkien of the Fallout world, even though it's not completely his invention. Actually he's one of the last if not the last original developer who has kept in touch with the community and responded patiently their questions about the games. Pity he didn't have a chance to work on F3.
Thanks Koki, you need just one sentence where I need three. :p
Jonesy on 19/6/2007 at 12:18
The current shitstorm at NMA brings to mind the reaction of the developers of Van Buren, the Last Great Hope Of Fallout Fans (TM) to their reactions on the game's development. (for those of you who didn't know, Van Buren was the Fallout 3 that was under development when Interplay got shut down several years ago.)
Quote:
The point, in case zealots ever want to accept it, is that your tastes are not the only tastes in the world. Really, I know this may be hard to believe, but if you like playing a turn-based game set in three counties of Utah in 2242, and you like miniguns but don't like lasers, and you like the ratio of combat to dialogue to be about 4:1, and you like cars that look more like Buicks than Pontiacs, and you think 50s-style monsters are okay but 50s-style aliens aren't, and you think Max's jacket from Mad Max is okay but the football pad armour isn't, and you don't like it when italics are used in dialogue but you do like it when boldface is used, and you want it to be longer than 100 hours but no longer than 120 hours, and like games to be non-linear but only to a point, and like big cities, but only two because four is too much BUT HEY NOT THAT ONE, and you like the desert but don't mind a little grass BUT HEY NOT THAT MUCH BECAUSE IT'S NOT FALLOUT...I am terribly, terribly sorry, because we are not going to make a game just for you. We're not trying to make a game for everyone. Really, we aren't. But we're not making a game just for you and ten other angry guys with tastes that are narrower than a hallway in a camp of pygmy dwarves.
Incidentally on the Something Awful thread, a NMA-moderator goon was actually arguing with one of the Van Buren team creators on what is and what isn't Fallout.
The plot thickens.
Talgor on 19/6/2007 at 12:21
That's really funny, hadn't seen that before. ;)
