the_grip on 7/1/2011 at 16:52
Yes I know "Indians" is politically incorrect... I only use that term here due to its common use. The proper phrase should be "Plains Native Americans", but these indigenous people groups are typically not referred to as such.
At any rate, I'm on a new life quest to potentially become a bison rancher. I have a huge heart for giving my part to the movement to reform the food industry and particularly how meat is eaten. Yesterday I read (
http://www.newwest.net/city/article/from_birth_to_slaughter_the_hard_questions_of_raising_bison_for_supper/C396/L396/) this interview, and it prompted me to start seriously thinking about this journey towards bison ranching.
At any rate, I'm posing this question to see if anyone out there knows of any good resources on bison and the "Plains Indians". This is more for personal research into the history of the bison and how they were viewed/used by the indigenous folks in North America.
Strange question I know, but thought I'd throw it out there.
Bluegrime on 7/1/2011 at 18:18
Amerindian is also an acceptable term.
Queue on 7/1/2011 at 18:26
I'd prefer you called them "Squaw Humpers". Jesus, you're so insensitive toward these times of political correctness. What's next out of that incredibly foul and racist mind of yours: Porch Monkeys? Moon Crickets? TAR BABIES?
I hope God finds pity upon you.
Being part fire-water pedestrian, I find that I'm more drawn to eating Bison/Buffalo meat instead of beef, but only if the animals are certified free-range and grass fed. I can only attribute this particular taste as coming from the spirits of my ancestors past calling me back to the old ways. That and this incredible urge to scalp every fucking white man I see, and wear raccoons like ear muffs.
the_grip on 7/1/2011 at 19:20
Queue, I hope my sensitivity towards the issue by putting the phrase "Plains Indians" in quotes is obvious.
I also have some Apache heritage in my blood, albeit small, as well as potentially some Comanche, so it's not like the point falls on deaf ears. I also almost failed my AP US History course in high school because I geared my entire term paper at how horrible a person Andrew Jackson was (which for some wacky reason my teacher thought was not a fair judgment).
Claims of a foul and racist mind are a bit over-sensitive here, especially given the fact that I'm putting the term in quotes.
the_grip on 7/1/2011 at 19:38
Also, FWIW, bison (often referred to incorrectly as buffalo) is a fantastic nutritional source as it is almost always grass fed. Thus, you get higher zinc levels, higher B-13, much better omega 6 vs. 3, etc. etc. It's also leaner making it higher in terms of protein/calorie ratio.
Queue on 7/1/2011 at 19:38
So it's okay to say that there's a "niglet" in the White House, so long as I put it in quotes?
GET OFF MY LAND, "CRACKER"!
I'm deeply "offended" here.
Renzatic on 7/1/2011 at 19:41
If you do become a Bison rancher, the first thing I want you to do is mail me a steak. I've been interested in trying Bison since had Yak jerky way back when. For some reason, I think they'd have a similar flavor.
ALSO THEY AIN'T CALLED "NIGLETS" WHEN THEY FULL GROWN, QUEUE!
Fingernail on 7/1/2011 at 19:42
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT USE THE WRONG TERMINOLOGY FOR THINGS BUT I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE
Queue on 7/1/2011 at 19:49
What do you mean by "THOSE PEOPLE"?
the_grip on 7/1/2011 at 19:49
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So it's okay to say that there's a "niglet" in the White House, so long as I put it in quotes?
If I was quoting someone or something, sure. The use of quotes is to use something in a non-personal sense... i.e. it ain't coming from me, I'm just trying to quote the way something is said - incorrectly, of course - to eliminate confusion.
I think if someone walking down the street said "Indian" that they would get little attention, even from Native Americans (unless they or someone close to them had suffered racial abuse). I'd bet it would be much less than if someone said "oriental" when referring to Asian people and much much less than "niglet". My point here is that "niglet" and "Indian" are opposite ends of a spectrum.
In truth, "Native American" should probably be put in quotes as the word "American" has Italian roots (Amerigo Vespucci). Instead, they should be Iroquois, Comanche, Cherokee, Wichita, Kansa, Sioux, etc. etc., as these are all distinct peoples, not "Indians" or "Native Americans".
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I'm deeply "offended" here.
Glad we're on the same page then ;). I hope it's readily apparent that I mean no offense and am in fact trying not to be offensive.