jtr7 on 12/1/2009 at 18:31
I'm holding back.;)
I'm stunned by the rash of random thread necromancy of late.
I'll get over it.
Eventually.
...
R Soul on 12/1/2009 at 18:33
Here's another interesting one. Sergeant Harwin knew of the arrangement between Morgan and Jabril:
Officer Morgan -
Cease these bribes immediately! There is more than
enough street garbage we can simply scrape off the
pavement that we do not need to *pay* for more! If
your snitches could ever turn up the serious ones, I
might consider it, but look at your recent list. Festil,
Blackrat, Hops - these are the worst you can find, and
none of them other than poor street filth.
-Watch Sergeant Harwin
jtr7 on 12/1/2009 at 18:50
Compare MISCB05, MISCB07, M10B11, and MISCB11.
Compare MISCB02, MISCB08, MISCB13, and MISCB14.
Compare MISCB06, MISCB09, MISCB16, MISCB17.
Some subplots stitched together:
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http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61970)
R Soul on 12/1/2009 at 18:52
I knew the filenames would turn up eventually :cheeky:
jtr7 on 12/1/2009 at 19:19
Texts like these make me miss Laura Baldwin:
"Weythran -
Found me the most sharpie way o ridding a self of a \
blade in the side - Watch Officer Morgan. Too much \
work for him, does he do his *own* scout of breakers and \
bladesmen, so a sniffer drops him a name or two, gets a \
coin for the mark of it. Turn me a profit and grieve me the \
competition, why not?
-Blackrat"
Rough translation:
"Weythran -
I found a smart way of ridding myself of some
dangerous competition - Watch Officer Morgan. He's
over-worked doing his OWN investigative work (too lazy, really),
so he pays an informant to give him a name or two worth his while.
I'll give him the name of our competition (cause them to be arrested) and make some money. Why not?
-Blackrat"
It may only be a coincidence, but all the "rat" puns, like sniffing and cages, may actually be intentional. An informant is also called a "rat", and tipping someone off to the authorities is also called ratting someone out. Blackrat is a black-hearted rat (probably a pirate, what with all the pirates at Rampone's, doing business with J. Osterlind), who gets caught in his own trap, because Watch Officer Morgan has all the rats unknowingly turning each other in. The money they get for it comes back to the Watch Officers when they cage the rats--put them in jail. Blackrat gets caught, Weythran doesn't know this, but suspects it, and gives Blackrat a chance to reply before he flees, knowing he may soon be next.
Winter Cat on 13/1/2009 at 14:26
It's possible that Weythran could be a thief, as the scroll to him is in building B (Shipping and Receiving mission) occupied by thieves. And in the next mission Framed there's a thief in the interrogation room, he says something like "You can't treat me like this, I'm veteran". Maybe he said not "veteran" and "Weythran"?
R Soul on 13/1/2009 at 14:42
No he says he's a veteran.
Winter Cat on 13/1/2009 at 14:55
Just listened myself, yes, he really says veteran, but perhaps he's Weythran as well.
R Soul on 13/1/2009 at 15:52
Probably not. Weythran writes like a pagan, and the man in Shoalsgate doesn't talk like one.
jtr7 on 13/1/2009 at 18:51
I'll reiterate that Blackrat and Weythran seem to be pirates, but yeah, the thief in Shoalsgate speaks with a different idiom. Thanks for bringing up that dirty double-crosser Jabril.
th10402A: (Grunts) "You guys can't treat me like this! I'm a vet'ran!"
sg60402B: (Laughing jeeringly) "Yeah, I bet that's where you learned to pick pockets so well."
th10402C: (Sniveling) "W-w-w--when I got back, my family was gone. I h-had no money to live.
sg60402D: (Jeeringly) "Sure. Tell it to the sheriff. He's got a real soft spot for war heroes."
The style Weythran and Blackrat use falls somewhere between Dominic and Thomas, though Thomas is much less literate:
M14B08:[INDENT]"Captin --
Tuday we did run throo that scurvy litehouse keeper! We tride to reezin with him, but wine he did like a cripuld dog! Talk he did of his fair miss, who be skejooled to retern to the cove. Wen she arrives, I be sher to tern her over to ye! We also know of sum loot he did hide! We be keepin ya infermed.
Ye shood also no that the crew wishes to rename the cove aftir yoo! Tis a prowd day indeed fer the brutherhood of the sea!
-- Thomas"[/INDENT]
M2DOM:[INDENT]"Milordy Bafford -
Speaksie sel to Ginny, did you bid. Dreckboun, the
Hammer-hearts ha' been afoot, askulk, aferreting about,
grabbing many a one to vanish in the coldstone down
below their forgey-chained cells. Tooks they your dealer
Tarquis in their clutches night past, and two patrons as well,
named of Lisalle and Ryen, skupped up as they left - and these
not the first, cries Ginny."
"Little wonder, then, if Dreckboun grows sparse-come these days.
Of course, the lack o' blame to one hand, but I gave Ginny a
firm understandsey, blood and doom and the whole book, so he'll
be learning himmun all he can about how to turn the Hammers off
him, never you fear.
About your Victoria [sic], nothing yet. Walks she an inch above the
ground, for all the dirt of her footprints have I found.
[/INDENT]
It may or may not have anything to do with this, but it's a sad cliché here for a percentage of the homeless to claim to be broken veterans. We have people in their thirties, or even twenties, claiming to be a Viet Nam vet. The claim is made often enough that it wouldn't surprise me if it had an influence on this conversation.
In the trilogy, all named pagans--that aren't leaders--are named after plants. Blackrat might fit the idea of someone of pagan descent, and he doesn't act like a pagan. Weythran, Dominic, and Thomas don't act like, nor have pagan names.
Of interest, "Dyan" is a variation of Diane or Dianna, Roman mythological virgin goddess of the moon and of hunting: identified with the Greek Artemis (Artemus, heh heh).
