Platinumoxicity on 28/11/2009 at 00:14
Quote Posted by Fafhrd
I was talking about Mirror's Edge, genius.
Oh, sorry about that. :sweat: ME does the same stuff though, but differently. In some places the system in ME is less limited than in AC, but in others ME is more limited and less dynamic.
So, do you still agree on what I said about AC? Let's say I didn't aim my post directly at you.
jtr7 on 28/11/2009 at 02:41
I noticed the ME camera was inches/CMs forward of where the eyes would be. I presume that was to create a subconscious sense of falling forward?
New Horizon on 28/11/2009 at 04:08
Quote Posted by Fafhrd
Couple of fallacies you're making here. A: Time spent on a body awareness system is not time
not spent on AI or other core systems. Animators aren't AI programmers aren't level designers, professionally speaking.
There were no fallacies. Certainly you realize that the animations aren't just made and then dropped ingame? If there is no system coded to tell the engine what to do with the animation, then it does nothing at all. It doesn't just come into being because a bunch of animators made some fancy movements. The animation is only the visual representation/feedback for the underlying BA system, a system that is coded by programmers. Any development team is going to have the same programmers working across multiple systems. They're not going to hire two or three programmers just to work on a BA system, or any other system. Sure, they will likely have assigned tasks within certain groups...but the load will no doubt be shared. Development isn't going to be that radically different from game to game. So yes, it does take time away from coding other systems.
The Shroud on 28/11/2009 at 08:25
Quote Posted by New Horizon
Whether people personally prefer it or not is irrelevant because what comes to pass will come to pass. As a gamer and someone who has been involved in game development, I feel pretty confident in stating where BA should be on the priority list during development...but that is also irrelevant. What happens, happens.
I think this is a completely fair statement. Can we all agree on this and leave it at that?
jtr7 on 28/11/2009 at 09:00
That would mean no one posting anything serious with regards to BA in T4 in this thread. Keep it obviously hypothetical and outside of T4, without repeating what's been said, and we may have something interesting.
The Shroud on 28/11/2009 at 13:02
I think it just means agreeing to disagree.
aidakeeley on 28/11/2009 at 13:09
Quote Posted by The Shroud
I think this is a completely fair statement. Can we all agree on this and leave it at that?
It's not a fair statement, it's a sheepish cop-out from someone who has no arguments left that haven't been roundly defeated...
If "what happens happens" is the last word then it's only the "last word" of someone who cannot support their argument beyond proclamations of "I say so (and, pssst, btw, I'm a developer, which I also say so).
If nothing more needs to be discussed, what happens happens, que sera sera, no one is listening anyway, the developers will do what they will do, the nihilists and the determinists are right but they were bound to be, the point is moot in the moot of mute, then what is the point of a forum?
Why don't we all just pack it up and go have some lemonade... or whatever "they" have decided to serve us, eh?
:laff:
jtr7 on 28/11/2009 at 13:48
That sounded more like a demand for popcorn!:sly:
aidakeeley on 28/11/2009 at 13:56
Quote Posted by jtr7
That sounded more like a demand for popcorn!:sly:
Yeah, well, I've been gotting my popcorn, all along... yerk erect.
It's a demand for more fist-pounding, god-damned-holodecking!, hate-the-very-idea-of-bawdy-awarenessess!... fun.
:sly:
:laff:
Bursted, I am.
jtr7 on 28/11/2009 at 14:02
Lush!:o
I mean...sleep it off!
I thought that was some peculiar lemon Kool-Aid.
