SubJeff on 18/11/2012 at 01:34
I really like leek.
demagogue on 18/11/2012 at 05:19
It doesn't fit with my image of Christmas culture. It does mesh with my image of backwoods culture. I can't speak for the German variant to that (their conception of deer frolicking in the Schwarzwald and some authentic hunter goes in to do Gott's work), but I can easily see an American version of some restaurant on some rural lake advertising like this. You can see deer jerky sold in most gas stations once you get in the country, and I could see that having a Rudolph theme. Rudolph & NASCAR & pro-wrestling (the jerky pantheon) could all go together pretty well probably. But it wouldn't lend itself well to full on deer-flanks at commercial scale like a mass chain supermarket for the US, I don't think. Who knows though... Maybe it could?
But anyway, Christmas culture is still something close to me, and backwoods culture just isn't -- I've probably got more Manhattan & Tokyo in me than Tarrant County Texas anymore -- so it isn't doing anything much for me personally.
Tocky on 18/11/2012 at 06:34
Deer flank is on a level with the sort of meat one makes roast out of. Tenderloin, which is the backstrap muscle, I put above T bone when cooked correctly. Cut a thick slant and then nearly divide and "butterfly" for a larger steak, soak in Italian dressing overnight and sizzle on the grille and you will slap your grandma for a bite. Is it nice to end the life of a beautiful creature who feels and yearns for life as much as you or I? No. Do they taste good? Yes. It also cuts down on the number of deer who starve and get run over on the highway to cull the herd. But honestly that may just be a rationalization to place that dripping juicey goodness on my tongue. Like Porche there is no substitute. Tofu? Bean curd? Not in the same universe.
Reindeer, a form of caribu, may be all gristle and shoe leather for all I know though.
SubJeff on 18/11/2012 at 09:25
Quote Posted by demagogue
It doesn't fit with my image of Christmas culture. It does mesh with my image of backwoods culture.
I don't understand this. You can't be saying what it looks like you're saying.
demagogue on 18/11/2012 at 09:55
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Quote Posted by demagogue
It doesn't fit with my image of Christmas culture. It does mesh with my image of backwoods culture.
I don't understand this. You can't be saying what it looks like you're saying.
???
How many t.v. Christmas specials have you seen where a family eats reindeer as part of the festivities? Me, none.
How many backwoods redneck restaurants have you seen that serve deer? Me, a few actually.
(And if we're talking about the redneck institution of the rural gas/petrol station convenience store, deer jerky is very common in the US.)
#IDon'tUnderstandWhatYouDon'tUnderstand
Edit: "It" here is the practice of a chain grocery store selling deer flanks, or more the people that actually buy it & eat deer, and an activist group trying to connect it to something to do with Christmas, as opposed to something to do with lyndlich bumpkins. I mean, their whole strategy, their whole point is eating reindeer around Christmas time should be a big mismatch & feel wrong (or they're trying to spin it like that so people think about it & feel that way). So what I said is just repeating the same thinking they're having. But by the same token, most people wouldn't naturally make that connection themselves, or think it's dumb like the original post, and just think about it in terms of the bumpkin connection, getting in touch with their rustic roots or whatever, which is a bit unauthentic for a mass grocery store to do but that's another issue.
SubJeff on 18/11/2012 at 11:35
I guess here in Europe deer meat isn't seen as backwood or redneck at all. In fact it's more likely to be eaten by the affluent so your whole "backwoods" thing was highly confusing to me.
Harvester on 18/11/2012 at 12:44
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
I guess here in Europe deer meat isn't seen as backwood or redneck at all. In fact it's more likely to be eaten by the affluent so your whole "backwoods" thing was highly confusing to me.
Yeah, in Holland only more classy restaurants offer deer meat and it's not that cheap. I mean it doesn't have to be crazy expensive either but it certainly costs more than say, a chicken breast fillet or a pig "schnitzel" (don't know the English word for schnitzel). A couple of years back I paid about 25 Euro for a deer steak in a restaurant, that's about $30, and that came with very little extras, no fries or potatoes and very few vegetables. So no, it's not considered backwoods here to eat deer meat. Deer jerky is not for sale here though.
Chimpy Chompy on 18/11/2012 at 16:20
America probably has far more free-roaming deer in the first place, for people out in rural areas to go shootin'.