Scots Taffer on 10/9/2013 at 23:44
Let's start with what we know...
Walt lives, he will shortly have the need to use a false identity, he's known by all as Heisenberg, his house & family are gone, and he needs a big-ass machine gun to take care of some business. What might that business be?
My guess is the Ozymandias stuff is about how Walt is now already back under another Gus - it's hard to say that it's Lydia in this instance, but rather Uncle Jack who will be using Walt to meet his needs. Heisenberg has no power here, his product is gone, his empire is gone, etc - he can't stop them showing up with a phonecall, he can't stop by screaming at them to stop during the Mexican stand-off, his power has already gone. He has one thing left from his days of power and I think he's about to lose that too.
I think the last episode did a masterful job at spinning the audience's expectations around and suddenly make you realise that Walt, while a bad guy, isn't a really bad guy. Uncle Jack, Meth Damon, Gus, Lydia, to a lesser extent, even Saul, are all very bad people.
Walt is a loathsome, petty person in many ways, but he's not rotten to the core, and that's why I think his last stand is all about redemption.
I have a feeling Hank* and Gomie are dead. This will be how everyone learns about "Heisenberg" via Marie. This will mean Skylar & co will leave Walt's life. There's a chance Jesse will survive. Maybe he will give Uncle Jack the location of the money** and whilst you might think that's enough, we know that it's never enough - Jack will still want the lab & the blue meth. Or if he doesn't, Lydia will & Meth Damon will be brought in to force Jesse to cook.
Maybe they toss Walt out on his ass or leave him to the DEA? I don't know, this part I'm unclear on... but I have a feeling the stage will be set for a big redemptive confrontation.
* I'm very aware that they ticked off all the tropes with Hank saying "I won" & "Love you" etc to Marie before the bad guys show up - knowing that primes us for the tragedy of his death - which might mean they will do a reversal, but I can't see how.
** I think that Walt losing the money is a necessary part of the Ozymandias story of how he loses everything, although I did think the flash forward indicated he still has some money - he paid for the machine gun, he has paid for a fake identity somewhere along the track, etc - so I'm not 100% sure.
SubJeff on 11/9/2013 at 01:09
Just posting to say I fragging love the name Meth Damon.
DaBeast on 11/9/2013 at 15:38
Quote Posted by Pyrian
Holding down the trigger on one of those is a great way to miss a lot.
It's a shotgun, you point in the general direction and the spread will hit something. Plus it was braced against the truck door. Not saying it's impossible to miss, just that the shooting went on for a very long time and they were in the open and very close together.
Im hoping that
Better Call Saul gets picked up. I want to see more of that actor and the character is kinda cool too.
Renzatic on 16/9/2013 at 01:24
Holy. Fucking. Shit. We're only at the second commercial break and already...
My God.
Renzatic on 16/9/2013 at 01:50
Jesus Christ.
Renzatic on 16/9/2013 at 02:07
That was horrible. And I don't mean horrible as in it was a badly done episode. Far from it. It was easily the most heartwrenching, gut punching, soul destroying hour of the entire series.
...it was just horrible. I think we've reached the climax here. The rest is just closure. Tying up those last loose ends (and there is one huge one left), and watching what's left crumble to dust.
Mr.Duck on 16/9/2013 at 08:25
This episode made my nuts fly out the window.
I am now an eunuch.
Oh God...
Renzatic on 16/9/2013 at 09:19
It made all our nuts fly out the window, Duck. We're all eunuchs now.
So, after tonight's episode, there's only one way all this can end. Prepare yourself, people. Spoilered theories are a'coming.
For various issues I'm sure anyone reading this is well aware of, Walt had to abandon his family. Both for their protection, and because, simply, they all collectively hate him with every fiber of their being. Though despite everything that went down tonight, they're relatively safe so long as Walt is gone. There will be an eventual DEA investigation, though thanks to Walt's brutal, heartwrenching, and rather clever phonecall made at the end of the episode, they'll assume Skyler was an unwilling accomplice in the whole affair. She may see the inside of a prison, but it'll be a relatively light sentencing thanks to Walt's last minute playacting.
So with all this in mind, what would force Walt out of hiding after a year? What would make him buy a rather large machine gun and grab the old red herring one last time? Jesse. Knowing he's alive and well will be enough to make Walt willing to risk everything one last time.
There's gonna come a point when Walt realizes the blue meth is still on the market, and there's only one person who's familiar enough with his formula to replicate it successfully. Some way, some how, he'll find out the Nazis didn't live up to their end of the bargain, and decides to finish the job himself. He has nothing else to live for, so why not? Skyler's likely in prison, and even if she isn't, she hates him. Hank's dead, and Marie believes Walt responsible. Junor will never trust him again. Holly never has nor ever will know him as a father. There's literally nothing left for him save for his utter loathing of Jesse, and that'll be just enough to push him to take care of that one loose end before the cancer puts an end to his now ruined life.
Sulphur on 16/9/2013 at 15:05
I'm reeling. This had to be Cranston's finest hour. I am in awe of the man more now than I have ever been.
Won't TV stop punching me in the gut, though? First GoT, now this.
smallfry on 17/9/2013 at 01:54
This last episode was probably the best thing I've ever seen on TV, and also one of the hardest things to watch. Amazing.
