SubJeff on 25/6/2016 at 00:52
What a crock this result is.
Nicker on 25/6/2016 at 02:03
Considering the demographics of the vote, it seems like a bunch of old fart Brits, who will be dead before the real cost of this farce comes due, have condemned their descendants to relive the nightmare of a dis-unified Europe. You'd think a few thousand years of tribal squabbling would have worn thin by now.
june gloom on 25/6/2016 at 03:23
Quote Posted by Nicker
You meant this ironically, right?
The kid thinks Jacob's Ladder is an action movie despite never having seen it and despite its repeated citation as inspiration for Silent Hill. No, he didn't mean that ironically.
Slasher on 25/6/2016 at 04:19
If you people had just waited a few more days and declared independence on July 4th it would've been really awkward. But noooooooooo.....
Gryzemuis on 25/6/2016 at 09:19
Somebody in the responses on Twitter says: "Great @GoogleTrends shows people voted to leave something they are now googling as they don't know what it is".
Here, I'll give you a counter example:
(
https://twitter.com/GoogleTrends/status/746303118820937728/)
My response: "Great @GoogleTrends shows people voted to remain in something they are now googling as they don't know what it is".
Gryzemuis on 25/6/2016 at 09:23
Quote Posted by Nicker
Considering the demographics of the vote, it seems like a bunch of old fart Brits, who will be dead before the real cost of this farce comes due, have condemned their descendants to relive the nightmare of a dis-unified Europe. You'd think a few thousand years of tribal squabbling would have worn thin by now.
Or you could make this conclusion: young people between 18 and 24 have no frigging clue about politics. They are easily bribed by cheap and simple carrots like, uh, I don't even know what those carrots would be. "You can now more easily study abroad" or "you don't need to show your passport when you go to Marbella". While staying ignorant of all the downsides of being in the EU. I think that is more likely. Who of you knew more about politics and the world when you were 18 than you know now ?
So you could also say: "Thanks old farts, for saving the future of those dumb kids".
Gryzemuis on 25/6/2016 at 09:39
Quote Posted by Assidragon
My question is... why all the fuss if they don't want to leave? Did they seriously expect to fail the referendum, nagging some extra votes without any responsibility? :confused:
Seems simple. Why hurry ? The process takes 2-3 years anyway. The remain camp (which includes all of the media, in every country in the EU) wants to make it look like the leave-camp exists of only fools and monkeys, nazis, xenophobes, old farts and dumb people. So they expect the leave-camp to do hasty dumb things without thinking it through. Because only the remain-camp is capable of thinking. Or at least they want to make it look like the leave camp idiots.
Quote:
And at the same time, EU top officials have kindly asked the UK to leave (
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36618317)
as soon as possible. At this rate it might be that the UK actually gets kicked out somehow, which would be incredibly hilarious.
Kindly asked ?
One day Juncker and his mafia insist the UK must remain in the EU. They are best buddies. The next day they try to throw the UK out of the house, naked, with no clothes. (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_z1K3n-NPE#t=3m03s) You got no fucking future Zack, especially not with me. -- Not the shoes,
not the shoes.
Juncker doesn't handle this in a grown-up way. He's a little vindictive bitch. He wants to UK thrown out now. He wants the UK thrown out in the most painful way. He wants the UK to suffer. Because he's a bitch. No parting like friends. Suddenly he doesn't care about the people who he was responsible for (and actually still is today). He doesn't care about the 48% of Brits who voted to remain. The only think Jucker cares about is his EU-superstate. He wants that to succeed, at the cost of anything else. So now he must make an example of the UK, punish them hard, hope the UK goes down drowning asap. And if he has to put his foot down to make the UK submerge under water, he will do it. Because if the UK drowns, the other member-states will be more scared to leave or pull other stunts.
I knew Juncker was an old demented alcoholic. Now we learn he's a little vindictive bitch too.
ffox on 25/6/2016 at 09:43
I think that one of the reasons for a majority of the older generation wanting out is because education standards were not so good in the past. You had to be brainy (or rich) to get a higher education when I was young. If you didn't you were likely to be xenophobic, an after-effect of WW2. You didn't meet many people from elsewhere in the world in those days.
Higher education student volumes have more than quadrupled in the last 50 years, rising from around 400,000 full time HE students at UK institutions in the 1960s to over 2 million now. Also, school leaving age was increased in 1972. Is it a coincidence that the majority of people younger than 50 wanted to stay in but the majority of those over 50 wanted to get out?
Don't lump all of the older generation together - some differentiation is required. The ignorant old fart Brits generally wanted out, the well-educated old fart Brits mostly wanted to remain.
I think this education slant also applies to the younger generation but they are far more accustomed to mixing with people of different nationalities and ethnic origins.
Two other things swayed the vote imho:
1. The EU rejected the bulk of Cameron's requested reforms, allowing only a watered-down version through. This was probably because the EU thought that Brexit didn't stand a chance. They've had a nasty shock.
2. The remain camp fought a negative campaign. They said that things would be dreadful if we left. The leave camp stressed how good it would be if we left. If the remain camp had said that things would be really good if we remained in they may have influenced voters more. (Mark you, neither side could produce any facts to back their claims up!)
