Yakoob on 10/7/2016 at 06:56
Talking to my friend I realized that, compared to non-English folk living in the UK, the situation is actually even worse for English folk living abroad. AFAIK UK has some non-shengen agreement with EU allowing people to work there, so most should be OK. But if you are abroad and UK withdraws, suddenly you lose the right to work in your country. Especially crappy considering you were not allowed to vote (which is sort of understandable).
Starker on 10/7/2016 at 11:28
Quote Posted by Pyrian
I don't know if annul is even acceptable to the EU, lol, they seem to be taking a "don't let the door hit you on the way out" attitude, perhaps motivated by the potential to erode London's financial center status in favor of their respective capitals.
Well, UK is leaving Europe at a pretty bad time, right after the heels of an economic crisis and in the middle of the worst refugee crisis since WW2. Even some Brits working in the EU feel a bit like Hannibal being recalled after people got cold feet back home. Not to mention that UK has been pretty arrogant about the whole affair and not a little bit insulting towards the EU. After constantly going, "EU sucks", "EU is a failure", "EU is to blame for UK's problems", now it's, "Oh, btw, we'll still be good friends, right?". Well, good friends don't abandon you in need, talk shit about you behind your back, or whine when you ask them to help out, especially if it's to solve a problem that they themselves had a part in causing.
EU can't really kick the UK out, though (well,
technically they can but that would very much be the "nuclear option").
SD on 11/7/2016 at 15:25
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
This makes me ask the question: how much are we obligated to be "tolerant" towards people that are themselves extremely xenophobic?
Perhaps that was the thought process your friend's Arab acquaintances used when accosting a citizen of the nation whose armies have turned vast areas of their homelands into rubble.
Pyrian on 11/7/2016 at 17:37
Tolerance of an individual expressing a bigoted viewpoint: No (e.g. they have the right to express their opinion and we have the right to ostracize them for it, including refusing to re-publish them)
Tolerance of an individual sharing a religion, race, gender, sexuality, national origin, relative finger length, or whatever, with one or more other individuals expressing bigoted viewpoints: Yes (e.g. we should not be removing their inoffensive kitten pics or whatever just because they share some demographics with the person above)
This is not complicated.
EDIT: When I see people claim that there is inherent irony in pushing for rights for people that come from socially right-wing countries, to me it seems like an utter failure to even comprehend the notion of rejecting bigotry. It's so utterly foreign to their perspective that they're not even grasping what it means.
Vivian on 13/7/2016 at 08:18
Why have you put 'tolerant' in direct quotation marks Tony? Who are you quoting? I'm worried about you.
Vivian on 13/7/2016 at 20:06
Blowjob's now foreign secretary and May's PM. In the absence of any effective routes of protest I'll settle for lashing out at anyone available. Tony the tarantula, you're an ignorant tool who fully deserves to live in this country. Do a headstand in your toilet.
Starker on 13/7/2016 at 21:10
Quote Posted by Vivian
Blowjob's now foreign secretary
What the actual f*ck? May becoming PM is no big surprise, but what the hell has she been smoking?
Renault on 13/7/2016 at 21:17
My impression was that Tony wasn't talking about either Muslims or North Africans, but extremists in general. Might be wrong on that though.
Starker on 13/7/2016 at 23:34
Um... Yakoob...
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