Tony_Tarantula on 9/4/2017 at 19:26
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You spout a lot of vitriol and I was wondering how much you knew about Brexit's effects. Hardly anything it would seem, natch.
The location of the two tiny and inconsequential regulatory agencies - The European Medicines Agency and The European Banking Authority - makes quite a bit of difference, as you might realise if you had a clue.
No, it doesn't. The "location" doesn't matter in the least. What matters is that they're European Union regulatory agencies, and that once Britain leaves the EU the relevant British industries probably will not (but quite possibly will, depending on the negotiations) be subject to regulation by those industries.
So.....the EBA is probably going to move to be right next to the ECB in Frankfurt. Does that have any meaningful impact on the regulations themselves? No. The most practical change is that it would give the Germans more influence over the operations of EBA. With any other institution I would say that's significant. With the EBA I'm not sure it's possible for the Germans to have any greater influence over it than they already do. They already answer first and foremost to Deutsche Bank. Them collapsing is great leverage over the regulatory bodies because it's realistic possibility at this point, would cause an EU financial collapse and their balance sheet is so convoluted that nobody really knows how much stress they can take before it happens.
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You messianic enlightened champion of fly0ver c0untr3s downtrodden, you! Give me a hug!
not meant to be triggering
Eh, I did. I'm kind of frustrated past the point of civility with this issue....especially finishing up business school. I'm surrounded by TONS of sheltered white people who somehow think, that having an advanced degree while having worked in white collar jobs, surrounded by other privileged white people, somehow means that virtue signaling about "diversity" and eating ethnic food at culture fairs is all they need to do in order to perfectly understand all the problems that underprivileged blue collar workers and minorities face.
Not surprisingly those of us who have had backgrounds that bring us into contact with people who actually are underprivileged and do physical labor for a living (like other vets, a former NFL linebacker, an oil rig manager, etc to name a few) tend tend to brutally mock the utopian sensibilities of our classmates when we're in a more private setting.
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The right wing seems to get most of its political power from pretending to be left wing. They're always like, "We care about the worker! Here, see, we'll give his boss more of the worker's money. That'll help him!" With about that level of subtlety, really. I always wonder, how does anybody fall for this nonsense?
I'm not sure if that dynamic still applies as much. The right wing is now starting to exhibit a strong split between populist right wingers and Bush/Cheney style Neocons who that attitude is traditionally associated with ( "cucks" or "Nazis" in each other's lingo).
Slasher on 9/4/2017 at 19:38
Then it sounds like you need to hang out with nicer privileged white people I guess.
Whether the stereotypes are true or not, your painting of people with broad strokes just makes it seem like you're on the other side of the same coin. Those on one side condescend and sneer at those dumb poors, the other side condescends and sneers at coddled and sheltered yuppies.
Slasher on 9/4/2017 at 19:40
Also, what the fuck is "virtue signaling?" Is this another thing all sheltered rich white people are supposed to do 100% without fail?
SubJeff on 10/4/2017 at 17:32
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Also, what the fuck is "virtue signaling?" Is this another thing all sheltered rich white people are supposed to do 100% without fail?
It's announcing, however subtly you do it, that you believe in some moral/ethical cause in such a way as to paint yourself as better than your opponent/others, usually without actually DOING anything apart from "standing in solidarity" with XXX.
A men wearing a "This is what a feminist looks like" t-shirt for example.
It's all the rage with the loony left these days. I might despise left wing bleeding heart virtue signaling holier than thou liberals more than I do right wing idiot nationalist racist-without-realising-it dumbo anti-science twatto frother nationalists.
Asteroid.
That's what we need right now.
Have you seen this: (
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/02/use-gender-sensitive-language-lose-marks-hull-university-students-told)
This is real. This what unfettered leftwing bullshit gets you. It's actually unreal.
SubJeff on 10/4/2017 at 17:37
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
No, it doesn't. The "location" doesn't matter in the least. What matters is that they're European Union regulatory agencies, and that once Britain leaves the EU the relevant British industries probably will not (but quite possibly will, depending on the negotiations) be subject to regulation by those industries.
You've missed the point, natch.
Vivian on 10/4/2017 at 18:00
Subj, I am pretty sure you're not a dick, but you occasionally say things that dicks say. Complaining about SJWs and virtue signalling is veering wildly into dick territory. Ooh everyones so PC these days. Don't start sounding like a Stewart Lee routine.
Kolya on 10/4/2017 at 18:48
Quote Posted by SubJeff
It's announcing, however subtly you do it, that you believe in some moral/ethical cause in such a way as to paint yourself as better than your opponent/others, usually without actually DOING anything apart from "standing in solidarity" with XXX.
A men wearing a "This is what a feminist looks like" t-shirt for example.
It's all the rage with the loony left these days. I might despise left wing bleeding heart virtue signaling holier than thou liberals more than I do right wing idiot nationalist racist-without-realising-it dumbo anti-science twatto frother nationalists.
Asteroid.
That's what we need right now.
Have you seen this: (
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/02/use-gender-sensitive-language-lose-marks-hull-university-students-told)
This is real. This what unfettered leftwing bullshit gets you. It's actually unreal.
Language policing is stupid, right. However you seem to have some severe bias against people that try to effect positive change.
Do you froth as much against guys wearing Thug Life t-shirts? Sporting naked women on their clothes? Drug related slogans?
Why are these okay but a guy standing up for women's rights isn't?
This is a rhetorical question. I don't care why you do that. But it's something that you should ask yourself.
Who hurt you so much that anyone taking a moral/ethical stance now seems like a fraud to you, that you feel you have to spill your hatred over?
SubJeff on 10/4/2017 at 21:57
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Subj, I am pretty sure you're not a dick, but you occasionally say things that dicks say. Complaining about SJWs and virtue signalling is veering wildly into dick territory. Ooh everyones so PC these days. Don't start sounding like a Stewart Lee routine.
I didn't mention SJWs at all.
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Who hurt you so much that anyone taking a moral/ethical stance now seems like a fraud to you, that you feel you have to spill your hatred over?
It doesn't seem fraudulent.
Virtue signalling isn't taking a stance though, it's wearing a shirt without ACTUALLY doing anything about it. That's the point, isn't it? VSers wear the shirt without being a feminist, without actually caring about the environment. These are the people that wear Greenpeace t-shirts because it's "cool" whilst scoffing down enough quinoa to feed a small village. It dilutes the real issues.
I'm not complaining about people who actually have stance that guides their actions.
Maybe your definition of virtue signalling is different to mine?
Oh, and I stand by my statements on that story. That Hull Uni language policy is one of the most idiotic things to arrive this decade. And that's saying a lot. I mean...
Vivian on 10/4/2017 at 22:18
Yeah, it says a lot about your priorities if you think that's something worth getting wound up about? With all the shit that's going down, people maybe being slightly too keen on social justice and stuff is what pissed you off? Mate. You've mentioned SJWs previously though. I remembered it just because it seemed such a toolish thing to say.