heywood on 15/3/2019 at 00:03
So why did Labour ask its members to abstain from the vote to hold a second referendum? I don't understand that one.
demagogue on 15/3/2019 at 01:52
So... if we have three votes, no May, no no-deal, and no second referendum, just by process of elimination that only leaves the EEA option (the Norway model) right?
Somebody said it's not particularly what anyone wants, but it seems it wreaks the least amount of havoc while still handing the UK a big blue symbolic ribbon it can pin on its lapels "You're an big sovereign country now". All in all not the worst outcome.
Medlar on 15/3/2019 at 18:57
Whatever happens the right wing led by JRMog will keep the pressure on for a no deal.exit.
In fact Jacob is hosting dinners for Boris Johnson with all sorts of people attending. When will he make his move?
ffox on 17/3/2019 at 19:14
Someone not happy with Parliament.
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Gray on 17/3/2019 at 19:41
Given how pathetic the situation is now, I doubt a Guy Fawkes style massive terror murder event would help. You may want to kill these incompetent fools, but it's not gonna solve anything, just make it worse on a much grander scale.
nickie on 17/3/2019 at 20:01
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Someone not happy with Parliament.
Thank you freddy - that was exactly what I needed.
Renzatic on 18/3/2019 at 05:16
What's the current situation on the timetable for Brexit? I remember reading that the UK only has so many weeks left, and if terms aren't decided upon by that point, it's automatically no deal. Is that correct?
Starker on 18/3/2019 at 06:35
Other than it being a complete mess? Well, now they are going to vote on May's deal for a third time. If that passes, somehow, the UK will start the transition process after a short extension period that's needed to sort out some stuff. If the deal only passes on the condition that it will be ratified by a referendum, there will be a need for a longer extension to organise the referendum.
If the deal doesn't pass, they'll hold an indicative vote for the MPs to indicate what the hell they actually want. And Corbyn is sure to table a no-confidence vote. In any case, they will need an extension to figure out their options.
That is, of course, if all of the EU countries agree to the extension (and Farage and buddies have apparently been lobbying some of the more eurosceptic countries to vote against it). If there's no extension, the UK crashes out of the EU with no deal.
demagogue on 18/3/2019 at 11:25
I read even if they vote in favour of May's plan they'll still need an extension to put it into operation.
As an aside, I find it kind of funny how May / her side would argue a second referendum isn't respecting democracy, you'd just be doing it until you get the answer you want, at the same time they're insisting that Parliament keep voting on her widely panned plan innumerable times apparently until they get the answer they want.
Thirith on 18/3/2019 at 11:32
That is funny indeed, though of the 'screaming and banging your head against the wall' type of humour. It's even funnier that a second referendum would be fundamentally different from the first in terms of what exactly is voted about (at least the "Leave" side would have to be more clearly defined, e.g. May's deal or no deal), whereas the differences between May's various plans might as well be that they're the same text printed in different fonts. (Comic Sans, Papyrus, that sort of thing.)