Burrick pub, burrick inn,next time there will be a Burrick city! - by Bulgarian_Taffer
Yametha on 2/3/2006 at 01:34
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Okay, I don't really see how the one follows on from the other... why would nocturnal and underground-dwelling make it mammalian?
I guess I was using the 'mammal or reptile' line. I figured that they weren't reptiles (because of the reasons specified) so I that they must be mammals.
It would have been more accurate for me to say that they were endothermic. Which, I know, does not automatically mean mammal.
SD on 2/3/2006 at 13:11
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I guess I was using the 'mammal or reptile' line. I figured that they weren't reptiles (because of the reasons specified) so I that they must be mammals.
Okay :weird:
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It would have been more accurate for me to say that they were endothermic. Which, I know, does not automatically mean mammal.
Endothermic means it absorbs heat from its surroundings. Are you sure this is what you meant? And if so, what are you basing that conclusion upon?
Howard A Treesong on 2/3/2006 at 23:43
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Endothermic means it absorbs heat from its surroundings. Are you sure this is what you meant? And if so, what are you basing that conclusion upon?
An endothermic animal is one that can control it's core temperature, heating and cooling down, they are warm blooded, which suggests a mammal or bird. The opposite is an ectotherm, a cold-blooded animal, these are the ones that require heat absorption.
dlw6 on 3/3/2006 at 00:02
There is some evidence that suggests dinosaurs may have been warm-blooded. I don't remember now if it's the bone structure or something else that made some paleontologists conclude this.
I always thought of burricks as reptilian, but that was just a convenient label and of no importance. The Thief world isn't supposed to be just like ours.
I think my favorite name so far is "The Bathing Burrick." It's creative, fun to say, and has a cute sign to go with it.
Don
Gestalt on 3/3/2006 at 00:12
There's some info (
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/metabolism.html) here for those interested in the endothermic/ectothermic debate. I'm partial to the intermediate physiology idea myself, but I haven't really been paying attention to these things over the last few years.
SD on 3/3/2006 at 12:54
Quote Posted by Howard A Treesong
An endothermic animal is one that can control it's core temperature, heating and cooling down, they are warm blooded, which suggests a mammal or bird. The opposite is an ectotherm, a cold-blooded animal, these are the ones that require heat absorption.
Ah, okay, for some strange reason I thought Yametha was referring to endotherm/ic in its thermodynamic sense rather than endotherm/y in its biological sense.
Important to note that not all cold-blooded animals are ectotherms. Burricks could be poikilotherms.
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There is some evidence that suggests dinosaurs may have been warm-blooded. I don't remember now if it's the bone structure or something else that made some paleontologists conclude this.
It's because birds are basically dinosaurs and birds are warm-blooded... despite looking like giant lizards, dinosaurs are/were actually much more closely related to birds than modern-day reptiles.
Kovitlac on 3/3/2006 at 21:44
I must be the only one here to say this but... I really don't like burricks... Hated them when I used to play Thief I, and I'll probably hate them again this time. *shudders*
dlw6 on 4/3/2006 at 23:57
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I really don't like burricks.
What don't you like about them? I would like to understand your reasons because there is so much unexplained undead-hate around here.
While I don't hate burricks, I don't respect them either. They rarely provide a challenge like undead often do, and they don't have interesting conversations like humans and humanoids. I did find the burrick variants in some FMs (different sizes, shapes, colors, and even a burrick rider) interesting for sheer variety.
Don
Taffer36 on 6/3/2006 at 02:00
Burricks are awesome, but they were made far too easy. I remember in the first LC mission I killed all the burricks in my path. Just strafe and slash.
Kovitlac on 6/3/2006 at 05:06
I just prefer human guards more. I love listening to their funny (and sometimes drunk) conversations. And I don't really feel much pride stealing from a bunch of undead and/or animals. Why are they to notice what's missing? *shrugs* Human guards are just much more fun for me to deal with.
