By Order of an Unknown Feb. 02/04 - by BlackThief
Master Garett on 12/4/2004 at 20:58
I finished it!!! :thumb: :thumb:
thanks Blackthief... I eventually found the sewer key too...
nil8hate on 13/4/2004 at 03:46
BlackThief :thumb: :thumb:
I loved this FM...i had been working my way through some that were not my favorite style....this was GREAT!!! am short on loot, but ah, well, guess that landlord is gonna have to wait!:joke:
Brian_R170 on 13/4/2004 at 04:50
I blew through the wall of rubble and I can't figure out how to get across the lava into the open window. I tried many times but can't make the jump. There's no place to rope arrow. Did I miss something?
Sluggs on 13/4/2004 at 07:15
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Originally posted by Brian_R170 I blew through the wall of rubble and I can't figure out how to get across the lava into the open window. I tried many times but can't make the jump. There's no place to rope arrow. Did I miss something?
You did - [SPOILER]You need to use the bridge making magic scroll.[/SPOILER]
Sir Lance on 13/4/2004 at 08:39
BlackThief
Thanks for the help. I have just finished it and loved it. This is just my type of mission and you do not make the clues too difficult or the the switches too small. I was even only 5 short of the loot objective on expert b ut I haven't found the secret so will have fun exploring more.
Dafydd on 13/4/2004 at 09:25
Earlier in the mission, I let Lars out; he bolted so fast I couldn't possibly follow him... especially since, unlike Lars, I make footsteps that the guards can hear!
I figured I'd catch up with him sooner or later, and I looted much of the house (I'm ghosting, so there are still some areas I haven't figured out how to get into without being spotted).
Eventually, I decided to leave the house and head for the cathedral. On the way out, I passed through the graveyard, opened the door -- and there was Lars, dead as a clam, right the other side of the (unlocked) cemetary gate.
I picked him up and dumped him inside the cemetary and waited for the game to end with me a loser... but nothing happened! What's up with that? How am I supposed to "make sure that he reaches the graveyard safely" when he runs out the door like his hair was on fire? And why didn't I get the skull and crossbones when he was killed?
Do I have to go all the way back to that point and not let him out? (If so, yeesh, I don't know if I'm going to bother.)
Dafydd
Sluggs on 13/4/2004 at 09:31
Only if an AI gets killed by Garrett, will you lose a mission. Many FM creators forget about this. Since he wasn't killed by yourself, the mission didn't end!
Odd, when i released him he just vanished when he reached his destination, on normal difficulty and i was easily able to follow him. (Must be quicker on a harder difficulty setting)
BlackThief on 13/4/2004 at 09:58
yes you're right sluggs i should have made a "don't let the guards kill lars objective" :erg:
it's not a good mission for ghosting especially because of lars ;)
so you also probably won't complete the steal the book of death objective without beeing spotted...
but you'll like my mission no.2, there you HAVE to ghost in some areas :)
here are some screenshots:
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http://www.clemens-thiefpage.gmxhome.de/screenshots3.htm)
Dafydd on 13/4/2004 at 10:08
Well, I'll keep ghosting as far as I can. It's certainly possible to design a mission that is impossible to ghost -- for example, make a piece of loot an objective, then put it behind a door that needs to be smashed open -- but if you weren't consciously trying to make it unghostable, you might be surprised how devious we ghosters can be!
I'll find out whether I can ghost it when the time comes... but even if I can't, that only tells us that I'm not a good enough ghoster (but we already know I'm just a ghosting pudwhacker): you can't really say it's unghostable until Peter Smith, Vanguard, Old Man, and the other saints of ghosting try it and fail!
(I will say I'm worried, though: there's a room I can't get into, at least not yet, with a guy who paces furiously around the brightly lit room in a pattern so chaotic it's almost random... and since there isn't much overhead -- only 3965 in the mission and 3800 (!) required -- I might not be able to finish without the loot in there. Plus there's the problem of Lars; I won't be able to get all the objectives, but that could be fixed by leaving Lars until last, or maybe leaving the cemetary gate open next time.)
Dafydd
