Wynne on 20/6/2003 at 09:29
You have to wait outside, in front of the guard, not behind him, until a little after he finishes his speech. I'm not sure why you're read as having killed anyone... accidentally chucking a body into the canal or a fire, maybe? Anyway, you should be able to get through the museum undetected, as long as nobody sees you stealing things, and as long as you don't alert the upstairs guard.
Ieldra on 20/6/2003 at 09:57
The museum: Yes, I thought so, but whenever I approach him more or less in plain sight he attacks me. I've tried various ways and various angles, sometimes the speech starts, but he attacks me anyway, sometime he attacks me straight away. I must've tried 50 times :(
Killings: I didn't throw anyone into the water. If I had, the mission would've failed soon after. I' ve had this happen in so many missions that I'm usually careful with these things. But what may have happened is that I left unconscious guards on a trapdoor over water, or at some other place where something could kill them. I'm looking for a way do get out of this problem without having to replay the museum, but I guess there isn't such a way. Or is there?
Wynne on 20/6/2003 at 10:40
I'm not sure... it may be that you have to. :/ Did the guard outside perhaps see you with a sword/blackjack/arrow out? You should approach him holding the invitation in your inventory, or at least, that's how I did it. If a neutral sees you draw and hold a weapon from however far away, they regard you as hostile, even if you only swung at the air. And I think a wielded blackjack is an instant clue that you're a thief.
Even harmless water and moss arrows make them hostile--thief tools.
Stay directly in front of him and keep away from him. Try slowly inching closer from far away. Maybe you're just getting too near.
Nightwalker on 20/6/2003 at 12:25
Welcome to the forum, Ieldra! :)
I've run across posts from other people who have had the same problem as you. One person mentioned that they had to stand behind the guard and wait for him to turn around. Then he asked for the invitation and the rest worked properly. Others have never figured it out.
I think that getting the blackjack can sometimes cause problems. There's another thread where someone figured out that there are some guards that have to be up and walking when the undead trigger. In an older post about CL, I found this:
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...that when you trigger Mercedes, the game "kills" several guards, and if you have blackjacked any of those (you can pick up the blackjack without triggering Mercedes) you will fail the "no kill" objective. The ones I know are "safe" to blackjack are the three guards on the west side of the police station (plus the one inside), the Falstaff Wizards, the two guards at Meepwood Bridge Guard Station, the people inside Black Die and finally the guard just outside Black Die.
You may be wise to restart from a save before you picked up your BJ and see if that allows you to continue with the mission.
Ieldra on 20/6/2003 at 14:30
I've re-started and tested things a bit: the problematic guards are those south of Peabody's and some of those around the police station. I've knocked out everyone else except those around the cathedral and the three lantern-men with the extra-large helmets.
This should really be in a FAQ (is there one, BTW?).
I tried the museum as you said but it didn't work. Again. I had to go in the conservative way. Fun, but pickpocketing the key from the lantern-carrying guard on tile floor is quite hard...
Otherwise, a really great mission!!! I've not been interested in fan missions so far because I thought storytelling was lacking in those, and that's the thing that motivates me. This one has it all, and the atmosphere is awesome! Are there any other fan missions with a good story?
Wynne on 20/6/2003 at 21:27
Sorry you couldn't get it to work... wish I could've helped you! Well, anyway, I'd recommend the Seventh Crystal next. Purah (the creator of the Calendra series of missions) really liked that one. He wrote a great review of it. :)
taffer of taffers on 20/6/2003 at 23:57
Dering this grate FM I was vary Disiponted when I could not finish the 2nd part. the
problem is compleating all the objetivs. When I drop the cyrax down the shoot in the first 10 min. of the game the "Diliver the cyrax to the crdinal" objetive dosen't chek off.
also after going into my rented room and geting all my stuff the "go to your room and get your stuff" wont Chek off ether. I rely wont to Finish this grate game and see part\
3. Plezzzzzz Help Me...
Thanx In Advance...:thumb:
Nightwalker on 21/6/2003 at 00:43
This problem is usually caused by playing with an unpatched version of T2. You need ver. 1.18 to get the obectives to work properly, so if you're using ver. 1.07, you'll need to apply the patch and restart mission 2. If you've gone a long way and don't want to restart, then just continue on and when you've done everything you know you need to, use "Ctrl+Alt+Shift+End" to complete the mission and go on to mission 3. :)
taffer of taffers on 21/6/2003 at 03:09
O, Ok I see now, I am useing 1.07. Can some one pleazz explane how to use a Patch, and more importantly where to find one. post a Link if posible.
Thanx a hell of a lot;) .
