Gryzemuis on 16/6/2019 at 00:13
I just watched the first two episodes. Jezus, what a boring show. I can't believe anyone enjoys this.
I'm two hours in, and there haven't been any gunfights.
No car chases either.
A helicopter crashed, that was about all the excitement we got.
Supposedly half of Europe ran the risk of being contaminated. Thousands of people could die. But they're all Ruskies and Europeans. No American lives at stake. So who gives a fuck ? Let them foreigners burn, I'd say. They could have put some US scientists in the show. Those could have put out the fire or something. Be the heroes. That would have been a good plot.
No love stories. They could at least have the male and female scientist fall in love.
And why are all the actors ugly ? If you need to have an older female scientist, why go for Emily Watson ? They could have cast Julia Roberts or Halle Berry or even Charlize Theron. Those ladies are 60+ years old, but at least they are easy on the eye.
No humour either. Two hours without any jokes. I understand that the fate of Europe was on the line. But in GoT the whole world was at risk because of the white walkers, and they were able to put some good humor in that show. (Edit: we got miner dicks in E03, that was funny. Good).
Talking about GoT. If there was so much radiation there, why don't we see any mutated animals ? GoT had their undead polar bear when the team went beyond the wall, in season 7. This show could use some mutated bears too. Or mutated Siberian tigers or something. Missed opportunity.
The only thing I liked about this show was the meetings with that dude with the port-wine stain on his head. He was pretty cool. He reminded me of Trump. Totally cool and totally in control.
Well. Three more episodes to go. I know this isn't a super-hero movie. But when this non-action continues, and there's so much radiation in the air, I think the script could use the sudden appearance of some Marvel heroes.
Renzatic on 16/6/2019 at 02:14
For every EvaUnit02, there's a Gryzemuis. The rest of us lie between them, forever assaulted by their public airings of self-righteous indignation.
Mr.Duck on 16/6/2019 at 02:26
You're funny.
Sulphur on 16/6/2019 at 04:28
A few people (a set of, let's say, n) find creative ways to reframe their Weltschmerz without being knobs. Unfortunately, after reading this, that number just became n-1.
Renzatic on 16/6/2019 at 04:52
You get a +1 for the gratuitous philosophical German word.
...I'm not making fun of you. I mean it. It's a good word.
Mr.Duck on 16/6/2019 at 05:01
An edge that kills quicker than radiation. Watch the jugular, boys.
Starker on 16/6/2019 at 08:07
Quote Posted by Renzatic
For every EvaUnit02, there's a Gryzemuis. The rest of us lie between them, forever assaulted by their public airings of self-righteous indignation.
Well, between those two, I definitely prefer Gryzemuis's brand of obvious sarcasm. At least it's a little funny.
Gryzemuis on 16/6/2019 at 13:32
Obviously, I was doing a little trolling. I had seen 2 episodes when I wrote my previous post. I saw another one after that. Gonna watch the last 2 episodes today. It's a good tv-show. Great maybe even. I'm enjoying it. But I don't see why this show would have the highest ratings on the Internet. I do wish people would make more shows like this.
I knew that both Chernobyl and GoT were made by HBO. But I didn't realize how different they are in some ways.
During the show I was thinking: "it's amazing that they didn't fuck this up in the usual way". You know, by adding gratuitous violence and action. Adding a love story. Making up more things. Look at GoT. They had a great story there, for the first 5 seaons. GRRM is an asshole, but he does get it how to mix action and non-action. He understands how to not turn things in to another Transformers story/movie. You need surprises, but you also need cliches, otherwise the surprises won't have impact anymore. And good story arcs might be a bit predictable, they are still good story arcs. When Dumb&Dumber got control over the story in season 8, they did exactly what I hated. They forgot about the stories, they forgot about the characters, they forgot about the little details, they forgot about the dialogs. They just put in a lot of action, a lot of violence, great visuals, nail-biting excitement, etc. Oh and GRRM said that Danny had to burn down the city, so they did. HBO let them do that. Even though HBO paid the $100M budget.
Something like that could have easily happened with Chernobyl. Some smart-ass HBO-executive "using his experience" to make sure Chernobyl would get "even better than it already was". That didn't happen. Thank god.
I've been reading a little about the series on the net. After all, there aren't any real spoilers. :) One of the things I did find a bit weird was that it seemed Shcherbina and Legasov were running the show just by themselves. In reality you want multiple people to discuss and make decisions. Ten people know more than two. I had expected every nuclear plant and institution in the USSR send their chief-scientist (because those know best what can be done) and maybe even their director (because they have the highest ranks, and they find themselves important). I found Emily Watson's role (Khomyuk) a bit weird. It turns out there were many scientists involved, and Khomyuk was a fictional character meant to represent all the other scientists. I wish they hadn't done that.
Also, it turns out the only "action" in the show, the helicopter-crash, was actually exaggerated. A helicopter crashed, but only 2 weeks later, and only because it hit something, not because of radiation. According to plant-personnel who were there at the time, the risk of a 2nd explosion, and its potential impact, was much smaller than the show would make it seem. And now that I think of it, there was a love-story, just not between the main characters, but between the fireman and his wife. So yeah, the show-makers put in a little extra drama. No problem. Still a great show.
Starker on 16/6/2019 at 14:03
The helicopter crash in the show also happened because it clipped the crane cable, not because of radiation. But yes, they changed the timing for drama.
Also, it's much better for dramatic and narrative purposes to have one character to follow instead of showing multiple (in the real world hundreds of) scientists each making a discovery here and finding a solution there.
Renzatic on 16/6/2019 at 22:14
Quote Posted by Starker
Well, between those two, I definitely prefer Gryzemuis's brand of obvious sarcasm. At least it's a little funny.
Well, he's a little more self-aware, I'll give him that.
But sanctimony is sanctimony, regardless of its political leanings. Let's try our best not to be sanctimonious.