Macsen on 4/3/2006 at 23:19
There really needs to be a sort of 'around the world in 80 days' Thief campaign, where Garrett bumps into the Thief world versions of Muslims, Samurai, africans, and so forth.
dlw6 on 4/3/2006 at 23:48
The FM "Circle of Strain" depicts Christianity as a small religion coexisting with the Hammers. It was a bit weird for me at first, because the world of Thief is so obviously not Earth, but the story line made it work.
I haven't played Circle of Strain II yet so I don't know if it continues.
Don
Gestalt on 5/3/2006 at 00:02
Quote Posted by Briareos H
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demand my christian / muslim / jew conversion !
I'm sure someone at your local church/mosque/synagogue could help you out with that, if you really want a conversion.
ZylonBane on 5/3/2006 at 03:31
Good grief. Hammerites ARE Christians. Just, in a parallel-universe sort of way.
ZeroFlight on 5/3/2006 at 04:55
*coughinquisitioncough*
fett on 5/3/2006 at 05:23
Jesus Fucking Christ you guys.
Assidragon on 5/3/2006 at 11:58
Not all churches were mini fortifications; mostly the early roman style ones (due to the mongol invasions indeed), later rarely those who were in the reach of the Ottoman empire. This trend however faded away mostly, around the 15th centuries afaik. When not even small castles could hold the raiding forces, building defendable temples became kinda useless.
fett on 5/3/2006 at 15:45
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And I read a laconic sentence that Eastern European churches were built like fortresses (liberal use of the word) due to the constant invasions (especially those Tartar(n) horsemen) in contrast to the more benign-built churches of England, say. Every year people were required to throw in a sack of food for storage so that in the event of a sudden attack everyone could jump into the church and wait it out. I'm not saying that was always the case - I've been trying to find a book specifically on Eastern European Churches to find out exactly.
All pretty much spot on up until about the middle of the 14th century.
Macsen on 5/3/2006 at 17:32
The hammerites seem like a mix between the USSR and the Catholic Church.
You have the red hammer imagery mixed with catholic architecture.
Gestalt on 5/3/2006 at 18:15
I thought the hammer imagery might be playing off the Jesus=Carpenter angle. Depending on how close to an alternate-reality version of Christianity you think of the Hammerite religion as, the hammer could also have been chosen for its role in the whole nailing to the cross thing. The red colour could represent blood spilled, or something. There's no reference to a Christ-figure in the in-game Hammerite texts that I know of, so any explanation revolving around that is bound to be a bit dodgy. The god-as-builder thing might also have been drawn from Freemasonry, or maybe one of the devs had just read Brave New World recently.
