CliffyB says "no GoW2 on PC ever, because of piracy and Dell-esque shitboxes" - by EvaUnit02
Zygoptera on 30/9/2008 at 21:17
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Oh teh noes, PC gaming is d0med!
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catbarf on 30/9/2008 at 21:32
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For the record, Crysis genuinely was an unoptimised POS. Compare the performance of Warhead on the same hardware with identical driver sets and settings for your proof.
I agree entirely, but I think it's beside the point. He seems to think that any game with requirements higher than Half-Life 2 (Which I can say from experience does not work on integrated graphics) would just be pirated and people wouldn't buy the game. In other words, he's completely fucking retarded.
A bit OT, but I haven't gotten to try Warhead- is it really significantly more optimized than the original?
ZylonBane on 30/9/2008 at 21:48
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Taffer36 on 30/9/2008 at 22:19
I'd take a guess that the first game for PC had lackluster sales. Besides that, there was a good amount of community backlash simply because the game was as useless as a brick on many computers. Regardless of what other people say, I love the multiplayer in this game to death and it's loads of fun (even if the singleplayer is pretty bleh), but the game got ZERO support from the developers.
I've been mapping for the Gears community and it's pretty fucking depressing when maps there get maybe a hundred downloads and a few comments while here, a community for a fairly ancient game (even if it is kickass), gets tons of downloads and several-paged threads. Not to mention that it just feels like the game hates mods. It's difficult to do anything other than map (they want you to "buy UT3" if you want to actually mod), you can't download mods straight off of a host, and, most ridiculous of all, in the server list custom maps ALL appear as "Custom." Are you fucking kidding me?
june gloom on 30/9/2008 at 22:35
CliffyB and Epic have been a joke pretty much the entire decade and Gears of War is the punchline.
I'd like to thank him for the fucking vote of confidence. What a fucking douchebag. And people wonder why PC gaming is going down the shitter? (not that this "wah PC gaming is pointless" mentality is the ONLY thing, I'm just sayin')
Aja on 30/9/2008 at 23:02
Despite the fact that you guys are all perfect angels who never pirate anything, there SO MANY PEOPLE that don't give a second thought to pirating a game, playing it to completion and then not buying it. It's this weird "well I can't afford it so hhhuuuur" mentality, and it's a damn good reason to at least give pause to a PC port.
But beside that, Gears was never a PC game: the gameplay wasn't designed for keyboard/mouse input and as a result the port didn't play as well as its original.
Also, they might be space marines but they're the most original and likable bunch that ever was. And the art design sets the game on a level above the generic. The difference between the original Marcus model and the one that shipped says it all.
you chainsaw someone in half and he goes "aaaw what are these guys, made of shit!?"
catbarf on 1/10/2008 at 00:08
Quote Posted by Aja
Despite the fact that you guys are all perfect angels who never pirate anything, there SO MANY PEOPLE that don't give a second thought to pirating a game, playing it to completion and then not buying it. It's this weird "well I can't afford it so hhhuuuur" mentality, and it's a damn good reason to at least give pause to a PC port.
Absolutely irrelevant. He's saying that everybody computer-savvy enough to have a gaming PC would likely just pirate it. And that's pure bullshit.
Aja on 1/10/2008 at 00:14
No, but a good number of them would.
Jashin on 1/10/2008 at 01:08
I'm not even sure if people who download games actually play them. I mean, how do they have the time to play all those games?
One thing I'm sure of: one download is definitely not one lost sales. There's no way to quantify the exact benefit or damage of piracy, but it does seem to support this notion of "just make it so good that it's a must buy, and people will buy," which is contrary to industry's idea of a sustainable business model based on franchising and mass production of the same thing. Same thing with movies, some don't even care for the movie as long as it moves merchandise.
I think it's the business itself that's at fault. It's too focused on growing its profit margin that it's now too inhuman to affect people's sense of responsibility to other human beings. Consumers are not cattle, they know when they're being fed garbage.
catbarf on 1/10/2008 at 01:15
Quote Posted by Aja
No, but a good number of them would.
Sins of a Solar Empire begs to differ.
