CliffyB says "no GoW2 on PC ever, because of piracy and Dell-esque shitboxes"

swaaye on 1/10/2008 at 20:46

CliffyB is a tool. Gears of War can stay on the 360 where its fans are. A friend of mine has a 360 and the game. Played a few hours of coop once and that was enough for me.

UT3 was such a half assed job, with obvious console deficiencies.... A lot of the game is great, but they obviously did not put everything they had into it and they got what they deserved due to that. They expect all of their older fans to run over to the consoles and to, as a result, downgrade controls and modding capabilities. No thanks; I'm not interested in Epic's game plan.

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Hell yes. Warhead is beautifully well optimised.

I think Warhead has had its detail settings tweaked down. There seems to be a good bit more popup going on with objects/vegetation (lower distance LoD.) You can gain a big speed boost in the original game by tweaking these options down. Anyway, it really doesn't run that much faster.

Considering how amazing the both games look, complaining about either being slower than all of other games that aren't even in the same class, is rather questionable. I'm still waiting for another company to have the guts to push hardware as hard.

Yakoob on 1/10/2008 at 20:50

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I may not be a business expert, but I do know that it all comes down to the bottom line, which is profit. Make a product that sells well enough, and you make money. It really is that simple.

Of course! If you're only going to release a product once and never again. And if your buyers can't return it. And if there aren't any reviews who are going to look at it. And if you don't rely on selling your tech to other developers.

None of these cases fit with Epic.

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If games were coded to run on the most common hardware, which is onboard video, almost entirely Intel based

No, (http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html) no it's not

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Intel GMA3100 does indeed exceed the capabilities of the Radeon 9600, especially on a rig with a Q6600 and 2 gigs dual channel ram. Do the research and see.

If it doesn't fully support commonly used APIs then, no, it does not "exceed the capabilities." It's up to graphics card vendors to support common techs like DirectX, not the game developers - we're way past the days you had to write five different versions of your code in assembly just to get it working on five different platforms. And thank god for that.

swaaye on 1/10/2008 at 20:56

Actually, yes, Intel is the most popular graphics processor provider. Steam only shows you people who use Steam. Needless to say, the majority of the world is not using Steam. IGPs are where the biggest volume is at. One only needs to look at what PCs are for sale out there to see this.

Even if all of the IGPs out there were 780G there would still be a horrible performance gap between that and the top end. Worse than ever before considering the graphics expectations of gamers today.

Renzatic on 1/10/2008 at 21:02

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No, (http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html) no it's not

Off topic here, but this concerns, confuses, and shocks me:

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Physical CPUs

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127 cpus : 3 0.00%

So does this means that, somewhere out there, there are 3 people playing their videogames on renderfarms?

Vivian on 1/10/2008 at 22:29

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Also, they might be space marines but they're the most original and likable bunch that ever was.

This makes you sound like someone who doesn't watch films, read books, or pay attention in general. Some gruff gimp, a wise-ass, a hulk and a black side-kick. Bunch of guff. If that took anyone more than 30 seconds to come up with, they suck.

PS I actually quite enjoyed the game, but fucks sake anyone who thinks the story wasn't a bunch of jerk. I've seen greenday videos with less contrived plots.

catbarf on 1/10/2008 at 23:53

Quote Posted by Renzatic

Off topic here, but this concerns, confuses, and shocks me:

So does this means that, somewhere out there, there are 3 people playing their videogames on renderfarms?

I found a motivational poster a while back that had that survey and just said 'WTF: The inevitable outcome of any survey'. I think someone and two buddies may have gotten together and done something to convince Steam that they're running 127-core PCs.

Aja on 2/10/2008 at 06:47

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This makes you sound like someone who doesn't watch films, read books, or pay attention in general.

Actually I'm someone who does all of those things with some veracity, and I still loved and appreciated the characterization of Gears' characters. You guys take this shit too seriously if you honestly can't enjoy the dialogue. I suspect that years of truly poor, cliched space-marine tripe caused a lot of people to prematurely dismiss Gears. The ridiculous plot is part and parcel (that's why we need the resonator! -- come on!), and I guarantee you those characters took more than 30 seconds to invent.

There's a playful and believable dynamic between Marcus and company sustained throughout the game, partly because they hired excellent voice actors, partly because they animated their models so carefully, and partly because the writers knew how to write funny, memorable dialogue without breaking the spirit of the game -- which is obviously camp (but so lovingly done that it breaks my heart to see TTLG treat it with such cruelty. As if the darlings of the TTLG universe are so wonderfully written and acted that nothing could possibly stand up to them!)

Morgoth on 2/10/2008 at 07:38

It would be stupid to use those crappy Intel GPUs as norm for hardware requirements. I mean people having a PC with onboard Intel GPU aren't even seriously interested in playing games in the first place, so why this cheap excuse, CliffyB? Just go on and make more of your retarded GoW games, and leave PC shooters to the experts at Monolith, Valve and Crytek.

Vivian on 2/10/2008 at 08:38

So it's starship troopers? Hmmm. I'm not convinced. All that stuff in the manual about 'a world you can become immersed in' suggests at least Cliffffoiii Beeee thought it was serious, but then he's an idiot so that proves nothing. Either way, them being a parody of action tropes doesn't make them the most original bunch ever conceived.

and seriously, 30 seconds. Bet you.

Koki on 2/10/2008 at 11:06

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Buy and play the game, you cheap bastard.

Play certainly and soon, buy - I doubt, considering the high DRM levels.

I guess the point I somehow can't find an excuse to actually get through is that just because Warhead works slightly better(As my quite believable source says) doesn't mean that Crysis is an "unoptimised POS".