Deadlove on 20/2/2014 at 14:01

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General question, do you guys think Constantine's guards in The Sword were monkey beasts in disguise? Or do you think that they were human and once Constantine's Dark Project began springing to life he turned them into Trickster minions with magic?

I can't find anything to support a conclusion, but I think it's more fun to believe they were once human, because that makes their fate that much more terrifying.

:D

Elentari on 20/2/2014 at 19:21

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I always thought they were human and fled when the whole 'turnover' thing happened, to be replaced by the ape-beast thingies.

On the flip side, those guards looked sort of weird, so maybe they were apes in disguise. But you're right. The idea that they were human, then when the whole place changes - they're turned into ape-beasts too is rather terrifying and creepy!. :wot:

I think for cases like that, when there's not a clear-cut direction for the story. . .its open for your own interpretation. Sort of like how Garrett himself is rather vague, and each player ends up building up his character according to their own ideas. Some of the story elements are the same way. It could have happened in various ways, depending on the ideas you, as the player, bring to the situation.

I think thats one thing I personally loved about the original games. They were set up so there was enough to guide you along, but there was still a LOT that the player themselves could fill in for themselves while they played. There are 'suggestions' as to what might have happened, but nothing was actually developed about it, so you're free to have your own ideas too.

But now you mention it, I do sort of like the idea that the guards are 'changed' too. Its much more in keeping with the story than they're just replaced.

TriangleTooth on 20/2/2014 at 19:48

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They are monkeys, their files calls them that (or possibly Ape I cannot remember exactly), and if you extract the texture at look at it it is quite clearly a monkey.

Jah on 20/2/2014 at 20:09

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A wiki doesn't qualify as official in my book, but if they're called monkeys or apes in the game files, that settles it for me. (Calling them apes would be a bit odd, though, since apes don't have tails.)

voodoo47 on 20/2/2014 at 20:54

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yes - here on Earth. so it's a moot point, as the Thief realm is not on Earth. and btw, a world where trees walk, animals talk, elementals fly around, humanoid bugs spit out swarms of flies, giant spiders prowl sewers, dead rise from their graves - and (demon) apes having (spaded) tails is the one thing that's bothering you?

also fishmen, a demigod, and a plant lady. I'd say a tailed ape is the least crazy beast out of the group.