Kyle Kellahshehskee on 21/8/2008 at 04:34

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NOTE: In spite of not having the patch yet, and in spite of how late it is, I can not keep myself from firing up this mission and proceeding on anyway. Just keep in mind that the ideas & suggestions I'm posting below are being offered with only 1 hour invested into the mission, and I'm still on the 1st floor, so I don't know if you've already implemented these concepts into the mission. If you haven't, feel free to use them in a revised edition or in another mission (drool!).

1. Replace the dagger and the blackjack with a one/two-handed pollaxe. I really enjoyed the sensible concept that a blackjack is fine to use on an unarmored person (the amnesia effect is nice techno-babble to "legitimize" Thief game mechanics), and that something more energetic is needed to similarly affect armored targets. But... the dagger-loaded-with-poison attack is most convincing only with the overhand attack, because it's the one most likely to pierce armor.

That said, why not do something that I'm sure many thieves do: condense as many important tools into one as possible to maximize its efficiency and effectiveness. My solution, is the Thief Pollaxe. Here's a quick image of it that I drew:

http://i37.tinypic.com/wmblhh.jpg


I hope that you can read my handwriting! :)

Basically, it's either a one or two-handed pollaxe that has a swappable cartridge of knockout pois...oops, uh, I mean "medicine" on top. The cartridge shown is screwed into an angled receiving chamber, but it could be a straight one as well. This cartridge is clear, so that one can see how much medication one has left after each injection.

One end of the Thief's Pollaxe has a hollowed out spike/needle for piercing material heavier than wool, and the other end has a leather padded hammerhead that has several small recessed needles. When the hammerhead strikes a surface, the head is driven back onto a spring, allowing the needles to become prominent enough to deliver the medication into the subject. Once the weapon is pulled back, the spring pushes the padded hammerhead into its Ready position, wherein the several needles are covered enough to reduce risk of injury to the weapon's user.

Beneath the leather and studded handlewrap, the weapon's handle is made up out of several different pieces of metal that are fitted together. The metal is positioned based on its density, with the ultimate goal to make a weapon that's as balanced as possible to ease its use in parrying incoming attacks.

The Thief's Pollaxe is made complete with a leather wrist wrap that's also used for quickly hooking onto or off of one's utility belt.

This weapon is quick to ready, and useful in a broad range of circumstances. Select Weapon Slot 1 to use its hammerhead injectors, or select Weapon Slot 2 to flip the weapon to its other face dominated by its intimidating spike injector.


So, what do you all think of this concept?

If anyone's interested in using it, all I ask is that a copy of my original drawing be included in the download, and that a simple acknowledgment is given to me in the Read Me.

I know that I'd certainly be honored to have it featured in this CoSaS mission, or any other such Thiefy work of fan made art.



2. Have there be a percentage-chance for certain team-based events to go wrong. This will increase the tension level dramatically. It'd be more than nail-biting if such situations were setup so that the player had a real opportunity to intervene to save his/her teammate(s). I couldn't imagine the tension one would feel having to sprint from the current location to another whereby one or two well-placed arrows could drop those who are pursuing your comrade and/or divert their attention enough for one's panicked teammate to suddenly get an upper hand.

Yours!
Kyle
Aug. 21, 2008

~P.S.
Am I now too tired to play the mission? Not after I jammed these toothpicks to prop my eyelids open. The points are starting to pierce the sagging tissue, but don't worry, the pain's sufficient to keep me awake. :thumb:

SneakyJack on 21/8/2008 at 05:05

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Thanks Slyfoxx and Shadows. I didnt know the explosion caused all the guards to go into alert - but now that I think about it, that of course makes the most sense. :)

I just couldnt figure out why six or seven of them ended up on my location all at once - I probably died four times on reloads trying to get my landing just right. Haha.

242 on 21/8/2008 at 11:26

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What do you mean? You just take it in any of the many places and place it on the table at the door. Use the table :)




No, I'm missing just 20 on Pro and I chose to disable elevator too.



Cloud has a purse, yes. But you don't need invisibility potion to steal it. They won't notice you if you sneak up to him from behind and crouching. As for the rest of the loot I can't really tell any hard to find loot except some loot on armoires, two rings - in the 3rd room restroom and in the room near drunk guest, also there is some loot above mahogany hall and I can't remember where but also somewhere high, also hard to notice flute on a table in the Monarch Suite near the gambling table. Did you steal all the loot from players in the first floor casino, also did you clean out money exchange safe?

And my question now, is there any loot in the room of drunk guest? I wonder where is the last 20 loot I couldn't find.

Dafydd on 21/8/2008 at 12:31

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I'm still stumped on two of Rubber's tasks:

I delivered the soap, red suit, and scroll case; still need to get the drunk guard and lock the clubhouse balcony door.

I followed Diggerydoo, or whatever his name is, when he picked up the case; but after showing it to Rasputin (I'm bad with names), he headed back to the stairs -- and is just standing there, humming. He didn't descend, at least not yet.

So I'm in the stairwell, in the triangular shadow, waiting for something to happen. I can't get the drunk guard because the Pearl Gambling Hall is still packed to the rafters with guards and assorted riff-raff. I can't get into the clubhouse because I don't have a key and can't figure another route yet. Besides, I keep expecting Diggerydoo to do something interesting... something other than standing in the stairwell doorway making vague attempts at music.

Have I messed something up?

Thanks,

Dafydd

Digital Nightfall on 21/8/2008 at 12:52

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I've seen that before. Do you have a saved game from before he gets stuck? There's something about a way a door can almost-but-not-quite-close that confounds him. If you can get in front of him and open and re-close the door (or just open it) he'll be fine.

I'll put it on the patch todo list.