Raven on 29/6/2006 at 12:19
Has anyone proposed making Thief DS in Dromed?
I think that a fan made copy of Thief DS in the thief 2 engine could have many benefits, not least the opportunity to tweak various aspects of the game that sucked ass and detracted from the gameplay, along with rope arrows and de-stupidifying the readables?
and just to cover myself (cause i love the way these forums work)
I DON'T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT EIDOS AND COPYRIGHT LAW!!!
I am also NOT demanding or asking anyone else in the community to take onboard this project, I am merely raising an issue - mostly out of boredom and possibly as a medium to discuss the benefits of the Dark Engine over the Thief Deadly Shadows (flesh) Engine and as a place to air suggestions of how elements of thief 3 could have been made better if they were created in the dark engine.
As a side element I suppose I could allow discussion about how that sort of project might best be achieved using the dark mod.
edit: - spelling
Rogue Keeper on 29/6/2006 at 12:50
Quote Posted by Raven
I DON'T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT EDIOS AND COPYWRITE LAW!!!
Well you probably don't but EIDOS does give a big crap about it. :sly:
New Horizon on 29/6/2006 at 13:22
Quote Posted by Raven
has anyone proposed making thief DS in dromed?
I think that a fan made copy of Thief DS in the thief 2 engine could have many benefits, not least being able to tweak various aspects of the game that sucked ass and detracted from the gameplay, along with rope arrows and de-stupidifying the readables?
and just to cover myself (cause i love the way these formers work)
I DON'T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT EDIOS AND COPYWRITE LAW!!!
I am also NOT demanding or asking anyone else in the community to take onboard this project I am merely raising an issue - mostly out of boredom and possibly as a medium to discuss the benefits of the Dark Engine over the thief deadly shadows engine and as a place to air suggestions of how elements of thief 3 could have been made better if they were created in the dark engine.
as a side element I suppose I could allow discussion about how that sort of project might best be achieved using the dark mod.
Sure, Thief DS could be remade in Thief 2...and it would definately benefit from it. I don't think it would be wise to package all the missions together, but one or two remade missions here or there would be alright. I'm surprised that nobody has done it yet.
Raven on 29/6/2006 at 13:37
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Well you probably don't but EIDOS does give a big crap about it.
I actually doubt that in this case... but honestly there are enough threads about it already (and it is much more fun to raise the issue of the Dark Mod and copywrite law... then we get to see the execellent dark mod PR machine jump into overdrive :ebil: )
ZylonBane on 29/6/2006 at 14:24
Quote Posted by Raven
has anyone proposed making thief DS in dromed?
Yes, many times.
jolynsbass on 29/6/2006 at 16:51
Since EIDOS hold the copyright to Thief 1, 2 and DS, I fail to see the relevance of any sort of copyright discussion as regards remaking TDS into one of the earlier thiefs.
Now, when it comes to the Dark Mod, then yes, such discussion is very relevant.
And to address the original question, sure, it's been suggested before, but it doesn't seem like anyone has done anything about it.
Vigil on 29/6/2006 at 17:05
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Since EIDOS hold the copyright to Thief 1, 2 and DS, I fail to see the relevance of any sort of copyright discussion as regards remaking TDS into one of the earlier thiefs.
There's "allowing people to experience content they don't own and haven't paid for in the form of textures, sounds and entire levels lifted wholesale from one of our other products" for a start.
jolynsbass on 29/6/2006 at 17:15
Good point there, Vigil...
Okay, so I guess it would be an issue, but still less of one than re-making any of the thief levels in TDM.
user1010 on 29/6/2006 at 20:32
Well, the problem as I see it, is that there's really no point in all of this.. except for balancing a few little problems here and there. The time and effort, plus the risk of being sued far outweights any benefit a revamped thief 3 would have.
No, I'd rather see that people spent their time breaking the boundaries of the engine some more, (thief 2 engine, NOT thief 3.. that's just icky in terms of an engine) and make some truly spectaular things with the tools already handed to them. I wish I had any real skill with coding or texturing or modelling, or mapping for that matter, but sadly I don't. :(
(otherwise, I think i'd be trying to get into the cosas team)
ZylonBane on 29/6/2006 at 20:59
"______"???
You have got to be fucking kidding me.
