Couple of weird Dromed technical issues

nicked on 31/7/2015 at 14:24

OK, from Event Viewer:

Code:

Faulting application name: DromEd.exe, version: 1.9.0.0, time stamp: 0x55759078
Faulting module name: DromEd.exe, version: 1.9.0.0, time stamp: 0x55759078
Exception code: 0xc0000094
Fault offset: 0x003606ca
Faulting process id: 0x2568
Faulting application start time: 0x01d0cb9b295d7431
Faulting application path: E:\thief_2\DromEd.exe
Faulting module path: E:\thief_2\DromEd.exe
Report Id: 70d29fff-378e-11e5-a239-606c66a4585c

Dromed.log:

Code:

: PID: 8460
: CPU: arch=x86-64 , fam=586 , cpus=8
: SIMD: SSE=3 , 3DNow=0 , MMX=1
: OS Version: 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
: Desktop resolution: 1920 x 1080
: Virtual desktop resolution: 1920 x 1080
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: CWD: E:\thief_2
: FM Path: FMs\NickCity
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: App Version: DromEd Final 1.23 MSVC opt playtest
: --------------------- misc config -------------------------
: resname_base C:\Program Files (x86)\Square Enix\Thief 2 The Metal Age\RES+.\patchedres+.\RES
: load_path .+C:\Program Files (x86)\Square Enix\Thief 2 The Metal Age
: script_module_path .+C:\Program Files (x86)\Square Enix\Thief 2 The Metal Age
: movie_path FMs\NickCity\Movies+.\MOVIES+C:\Program Files (x86)\Square Enix\Thief 2 The Metal Age\MOVIES
: mod_path .\MODS\t2water+.\MODS\t2skies+.\MODS\EP\EPBooks+.\MODS\EP+.\MODS\NTEX+.\patchedmis
: install_path .+C:\Program Files (x86)\Square Enix\Thief 2 The Metal Age
: language english
: fm
: game_screen_size 1920 1080
: game_screen_depth 32
: game_screen_flags 45
: game_full_screen 1
: game_hardware 1
: single_display_mode 2
: ui_scale_mode 0
: use_d3d_display
: d3d_disp_scaled_2d_overlay 800 600
: framerate_cap 100.0
: SlowFrameUI 10
: force_32bit
: force_32bit_textures
: mipmap_mode 2
: lm_mipmap_mode 0
: lm_init_texmem 2
: lm_filter_margin 1
: disable_lightmap_aniso
: tex_edge_padding 2
: alpha_test_as_opaque
: multisampletype 8
: d3d_disp_enable_distortionfx
: sfx_device 2
: sfx_channels 12
: sfx_vol_music -474
: sfx_vol_2d 0
: sfx_vol_3d 0
: game dark
: obj_min -8192
: obj_max 8000
: max_refs 32000
: gui_font editor\textfont
: use_hi_res_timer
: enhanced_sky 1
: skip_intro
: crop_movies
: new_mantle
: z_far 512
: wr_render_zcomp
: render_weapon_particles
: legacy_force_match_unrefs 0
: dark_zcomp_arm
: edit_screen_size 1152,864
: edit_screen_depth 16
: editor_disable_gdi
: d3d_disp_hw2d_msaa
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: Enumerating D3D9 adapters (1)...
: Adapter 0
: device name: \\.\DISPLAY1
: driver : nvd3dum.dll
: descr : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770
: driver ver : 0x000A0012-000D14F2
: vendor id : 0x000010DE
: device id : 0x00001184
: subsys id : 0x11841569
: device guid: D7B71E3E-52C4-11CF-2B62-89311CC2
: desktop res: 1920 x 1080
: Modes
: 640 x 480 x 16
: 720 x 480 x 16
: 720 x 576 x 16
: 800 x 600 x 16
: 1024 x 768 x 16
: 1152 x 864 x 16
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 16 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 16 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 16 (not in mode table)
: 1280 x 720 x 16
: 1280 x 768 x 16
: 1280 x 800 x 16
: 1280 x 960 x 16
: 1280 x 1024 x 16
: 1360 x 768 x 16
: 1366 x 768 x 16
: 1600 x 900 x 16
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 16 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 16 (not in mode table)
: 1600 x 1200 x 16
: 1680 x 1050 x 16
: unsupported mode 1768 x 992 x 16 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1768 x 992 x 16 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1768 x 992 x 16 (not in mode table)
: 1920 x 1080 x 16
: 1440 x 900 x 16
: 640 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 576 x 32
: 800 x 600 x 32
: 1024 x 768 x 32
: 1152 x 864 x 32
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 32 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 32 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1280 x 720 x 32
: 1280 x 768 x 32
: 1280 x 800 x 32
: 1280 x 960 x 32
: 1280 x 1024 x 32
: 1360 x 768 x 32
: 1366 x 768 x 32
: 1600 x 900 x 32
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 32 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1600 x 1200 x 32
: 1680 x 1050 x 32
: unsupported mode 1768 x 992 x 32 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1768 x 992 x 32 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1768 x 992 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1920 x 1080 x 32
: 1440 x 900 x 32
: Device Validation
: validated ok, device added (0, E390000)
: Enumeration done
: D3DProvider: Enumerating adapter 0 modes
: 640 x 480 x 16
: 720 x 480 x 16
: 720 x 576 x 16
: 800 x 600 x 16
: 1024 x 768 x 16
: 1152 x 864 x 16
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 16 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 16 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 16 (not in mode table)
: 1280 x 720 x 16
: 1280 x 768 x 16
: 1280 x 800 x 16
: 1280 x 960 x 16
: 1280 x 1024 x 16
: 1360 x 768 x 16
: 1366 x 768 x 16
: 1600 x 900 x 16
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 16 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 16 (not in mode table)
: 1600 x 1200 x 16
: 1680 x 1050 x 16
: unsupported mode 1768 x 992 x 16 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1768 x 992 x 16 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1768 x 992 x 16 (not in mode table)
: 1920 x 1080 x 16
: 1440 x 900 x 16
: 640 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 576 x 32
: 800 x 600 x 32
: 1024 x 768 x 32
: 1152 x 864 x 32
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 32 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 32 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1176 x 664 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1280 x 720 x 32
: 1280 x 768 x 32
: 1280 x 800 x 32
: 1280 x 960 x 32
: 1280 x 1024 x 32
: 1360 x 768 x 32
: 1366 x 768 x 32
: 1600 x 900 x 32
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 32 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1600 x 1024 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1600 x 1200 x 32
: 1680 x 1050 x 32
: unsupported mode 1768 x 992 x 32 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1768 x 992 x 32 (not in mode table)
: unsupported mode 1768 x 992 x 32 (not in mode table)
: 1920 x 1080 x 32
: 1440 x 900 x 32
: D3DProvider: Enumeration done
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1152x864x32 ; mode 1152x864x16 (5 5 0 2D) ; 2d_surf_mode: 3
: CreateDevice: res = D3D_OK ; 1152x864 fmt=35 zfmt=0 cnt=1 ms=8 swap=1 fs=0 hz=0 pres=1 flags=0
: Loaded script module "gen.osm" [FileModDate=2000-Mar-27]
: Loaded script module "convict.osm" [FileModDate=2000-Mar-27]

Link to crash dumps (both a short one and a full one, both from loading the mission, selecting a face, and just scrolling through the numbers for the texture applied to that face):

(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_UhLOkH7SZTaG84MWRIbVZzMmM/view?usp=sharing) https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_UhLOkH7SZTaG84MWRIbVZzMmM/view?usp=sharing

fibanocci on 31/7/2015 at 15:46

I've not looked into all the logs yet

Quote:

Exception code: 0xc0000094

Looks like this is a stack overflow. Check your RAM first.

Quote:

resname_base C:\Program Files (x86)\Square Enix\Thief 2 The Metal Age\RES+.\patchedres+.\RES

The path to the resname_base leads to a special secured folder. I'm not sure if that matters, but I think so. You might want to change that path.

nicked on 31/7/2015 at 15:53

Hmm that is weird, that is not, and never has been, the path where Thief is installed...

Found that path in my install.cfg and DARKINST.cfg; possibly a relic from it being a Steam install. Changed that to be the correct install directory (E:/Thief_2/). The problem persists but almost certainly a good one to fix regardless.

fibanocci on 31/7/2015 at 15:57

Yes, it's E:\thief_2
But the resname reportedly leads to that folder. You could check it in darkinst.cfg again.

I can see that NVIDIA 3d vision is running. I remember that it caused problems with thief in the past.
There's also anti-aliasing activated (multisampletype 8). Better deactivate it for now.

Le MAlin 76 on 31/7/2015 at 20:40

Quote:

Nom de l’application défaillante DromEd.exe, version : 1.9.0.0, horodatage : 0x55759078
Nom du module défaillant : ltc_game32-99265.dll_unloaded, version : 0.0.0.0, horodatage : 0x559eccc7
Code d’exception : 0xc0000005
Décalage d’erreur : 0x0d2a57c0
ID du processus défaillant : 0x2288
Heure de début de l’application défaillante : 0x01d0cbcf311afce8
Chemin d’accès de l’application défaillante : E:\Program Files (x86)\Dark2 - DromedOM\Dromed2\DromEd.exe
Chemin d’accès du module défaillant: ltc_game32-99265.dll
ID de rapport : 549f043e-37c3-11e5-8ffd-3085a99ac1bd

It's in french, but it's near to the same. But for me, it's link to Raptr software (itc_gameetc.dll...). Maybe have you a software which can give this issue, or some software take too memory for dromed. Have you tried to apply EnableLAA with dromed ?

fibanocci on 31/7/2015 at 21:22

Le MAlin 76, never install Thief in Program Files (x86).

LarryG on 31/7/2015 at 22:07

If it isn't C:\Program Files (x86) it's OK. I've used F:\Program Files (x86) for years with no issues. The directory name Program Files (x86) isn't magic. It's the special nature of C:\Program Files (x86) for windows that's the issue. IIRC the problem comes with the windows registry awareness of C:\Program Files (x86), but I could be wrong. In any event as long as it isn't in C:\Program Files (x86) or a subdir of C:\Program Files (x86), you can name your Thief install directory anything you want and have it as a subdir of any other directory, even one named Program Files (x86).

fibanocci on 31/7/2015 at 22:46

I wonder why anyone should set up a folder named F:\Program Files (x86) :confused:
Well, that doesn't matter, anyway.

Nicked: How much RAM does DromEd take if you load that mission? It's not a bad idea to apply Large Adress Aware on DromEd, if it takes more than 1-1,5 GB RAM.

LarryG on 31/7/2015 at 23:18

It's where I put all my 32-bit program files that aren't registry aware. And I like the (x86) in the name. It makes me feel nostalgic for the days when the Intel 8086 processor was king. :p

nicked on 1/8/2015 at 08:22

Quote Posted by fibanocci

It's using about 156,000K according to task manager. I've made it Large Address Aware just in case.

However I've tried loading numerous other large missions and not seen any crashes. I think it must be something to do with the texture families I'm using.

I'm 99% sure they should all be power of 2, but I will double check this. They're all DDS textures, with a couple of old pcx families. Mixing texture types shouldn't cause a problem should it?

Anything else I should be aware of when using custom textures that might cause crashes?