FenPhoenix on 1/5/2019 at 16:12

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AngelLoader can import your DarkLoader comments, just so you know.

FenPhoenix on 1/5/2019 at 16:47

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You know, I don't like to speak up like this very often, but I strongly feel that insulting people for using DarkLoader is a colossally ineffective way to get them to switch. Nobody is going, "gee, I'm going to use this old program for literally no reason whatsoever except to annoy people". People have reasons for doing things that may very well not be obvious until you ask. And when you do, you might be able to provide an answer to whatever is holding them up in like 2 seconds, instead of spending the rest of eternity just mouthing off at them and delaying or precluding the accomplishment of the actual goal, which is to get people to move off DL.

zajazd could have just as easily dug in his heels and not given the courtesy of an explanation and just snarked right back, and then we'd all be stuck in a ludicrous loop of thinking the other is an idiot and meanwhile nobody's problem is any closer to being solved.

If a common reason for sticking with DL is because people don't want to lose their data, then maybe we can put an explanation somewhere about how NDL and AL can both import DL data. If a common problem is people wanting a DL-like standalone loader (say, because they have all their FMs in one folder and are not sorted by game as is required for FMSel and NDL), we could say AngelLoader supports that (I don't know if that's a common problem, but just giving examples). I don't know, just some clear explanations in a central place of why DarkLoader is a bad idea and how some common reasons for sticking with it can be solved by modern loaders might be good. I don't know.

R Soul on 1/5/2019 at 17:55

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Classy.

baeuchlein on 2/5/2019 at 14:00

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I have experimented a bit yesterday. The crash zajazd mentions is indeed caused by the english version of the Patriot campaign. There appears to be either an overall size limit being exceeded or a limit concerning the number of files, because the russian version is still accepted by Darkloader, most likely because it's a few megabytes smaller and has a few files less inside than the english version. Ironically, since Darkloader already crashes before it can display the readme file of the campaign, the player cannot easily read the warning in the readme file.:p

Anyone still wishing to use Darkloader has to move the english version of Patriot out of the missions folder, after which the crash should not happen anymore. Then, one may either switch to a more modern loader (and place the campaign in the mission directory once again), or play the russian version instead. If you don't understand Russian, though...-shrugs-

Die-hard fans of Darkloader might also succeed by deleting some of the files in the campaign archive, but if things don't work anymore then, don't come along crying.:rolleyes:

Consider Darkloader as old, unsupported software. As long as you have no problems using it, do it if you wish. But once problems crop up, the best choice is to switch to another one of the currently available FM loaders.