Darkloader not installing missions properly after TafferPatcher

Bucky Seifert on 17/8/2014 at 01:25

So, I just downloaded and applied the TafferPatcher so I could use the HD Textures mod, which runs and works fine. However, when I try to run an FM using DarkLoader, it doesn't seem to install the mission properly. I can run the game, and the new game shows the mission name, but then it just jumps right into Running Interference. Is DarkLoader simply incompatible with TafferPatcher's changes? It works with Thief Gold but not Thief II.

downwinder on 17/8/2014 at 04:36

well i am not a pro at this ,but i removed the ep patch,that helped a bit also some people run missions through fmsel so it run as it was ment to be,but i am noob on the subject

i personally feel any older missions should be either updated for new dark so this problem dont happen,or each person has to figure out how to run some fm's with no texture problems

voodoo47 on 17/8/2014 at 08:43

Quote Posted by downwinder

i personally feel any older missions should be either updated for new dark so this problem dont happen,or each person has to figure out how to run some fm's with no texture problems

I personally feel that you should try to moan less, and actually heed the suggestions from the previous topics. "it doesn't work!" "here is a solution." "but I don't like that one!" is not going to get you anywhere.

fortuni on 17/8/2014 at 09:07

Quote Posted by downwinder

i personally feel any older missions should be either updated for new dark so this problem dont happen,or each person has to figure out how to run some fm's with no texture problems

Downwinder, only very recently a debate occurred as to whether many of the older FMs should be updated to run with NewDark, the argument ran along the lines that only the original author has the right to modify his or her FM and for anyone else to change someone else's work would be a breach of copyright

This thread is not the place to pick up that argument, but Ricebug produced some patches and instructions as to how to run some of the older FMs and got some serious flack for doing so, so withdrew them....which I personally felt we are all the poorer for.

I only mention this as I have noticed this is not the first time you have suggested that some of the older FMs should be updated, but i fear your suggestion, good as it is intended will remain a hope rather than a reality for the time being

Ricebug on 17/8/2014 at 09:20

Quote Posted by Buccura

* Are you trying to play from a save game? Won't work. You have to start over if you've done some major surgery.
* Does this happen with other FMs? If so, you've got something screwy in one of the config files.
* Where did you put the "HD Textures mod"? (Are you referring to ep2.crf?)

fortuni on 17/8/2014 at 09:25

With regard to 'Running Interference' starting when trying to load an FM, this is not the first time I have seen this question posted....I even had this problem when trying to instal Thief1 HDmod, and I suspect it will not be the last time

May I suggest that someone that understands the incorrect install issues that keep constantly cropping up on this forum write a 'how to fix' guide and nickie could post it on the OP....

I suggest this as I am not knowledgable enough to give advise on these issues, as I expect many others aren't, so it always is left for a small no of people to answer such enquiries, many of whom clearly get frustrated having to answer the same questions time after time, as I would.....if such a guide to resolving install issues existed (if it does could someone please post it here, and nickie could you post it on the OP ) anyone could point such enquiries to to that guide easily and within seconds

downwinder on 17/8/2014 at 09:27

Quote Posted by voodoo47

while it should still be possible to use the old loaders, the recommended way of launching FMs under NewDark is the built in FMselect - Tafferpatcher will allow you to create the required shortcuts during setup. consider the old loaders unsupported - just like the pre-NewDark version TFix 1.10, use it if you must, if it works for you then good, but if not, don't go crying rivers on the forum.

I personally feel that you should try to moan less, and actually heed the suggestions from the previous topics. "it doesn't work!" "here is a solution." "but I don't like that one!" is not going to get you anywhere.

i was not moaning,but there are a ton of missions with issues,and to have to sit there and detective it for each one gets a bit old,i was just trying to help the person

fortuni on 17/8/2014 at 09:34

Quote Posted by downwinder

i was not moaning,but there are a ton of missions with issues,and to have to sit there and detective it for each one gets a bit old,i was just trying to help the person

Voodoo is right though downwinder, by using FMsel 99% of problems disappear! but yes there will always be a few issues with some of the older FMs! Thief has been going for 15 years now. how many other games launched in 1999 are still going strong with all of its update, patches and mods

FMsel may not be perfect, but it's the nearest thing we have to it.....:D

Bucky Seifert on 17/8/2014 at 17:33

Quote Posted by Ricebug

1: No, I'm starting the game new.
2: It happens with every FM I run.
3: I put the HDMOD folder in the regular Thief folder. I just installed it normally. Does the game now read most the data files from that folder now?

I am aware there is the FM mission selector, but I prefer DarkLoader for it's easy of use and familiarity. If it's simply not possible to use then I'll accept it but if there is a way to get it to work I'd appreciate it.

TheDarkOne93 on 17/8/2014 at 18:19

Ok in order for FMs to work with the HD mod, go to your HD mod folder in your directory and rename the files "intrface" to "intrface_" and "strings" to "strings_".