Martin Karne on 16/4/2011 at 21:08
Oh ok, sorry. Then the more reason to put a hidden cam there, disguised as a lamp over the house fence, garden or wall.
Record all day and all night until something happens.
Ted O'Toole on 16/4/2011 at 21:57
Kinda related:
Friend of mine had a guy plough into the back of his car, he was pretty beat up, cuts and bruised ribs etc, but no serious injuries on either side.
He's a painfully nice guy, so when the other driver asked if he wanted to call the police he said something like "Don't worry about it, no one was seriously hurt thats what matters blah blah". Other guy was obviously greatful.
6 months later he gets a notice from his insurance company saying the guy made a claim against him getting £6000. Meaning my mates premiums shot way the hell up.
Due to the system being a bit ridiculous, whoever puts the claim in first wins. (I'm sure theres more to it, but thats the gist of what he was told by both the insurance company and his solicitor).
OT: Drink driving happens everywhere. Having spent some time in North America I was appalled at the relaxed attitude to it. People regularly go for a drink after work and think nothing of driving home.
Maybe its the years of gruesome public awareness advertising making me feel so strongly about it, but I'd have thought America would wise up to it by now.
Matthew on 16/4/2011 at 22:08
Quote Posted by Ted O'Toole
6 months later he gets a notice from his insurance company saying the guy made a claim against him getting £6000. Meaning my mates premiums shot way the hell up.
Due to the system being a bit ridiculous, whoever puts the claim in first wins. (I'm sure theres more to it, but thats the gist of what he was told by both the insurance company and his solicitor).
There is incredibly more to it than that because that is actually nowhere near what happens!
Ted O'Toole on 16/4/2011 at 22:23
Quote Posted by Matthew
There is incredibly more to it than that because that is actually nowhere near what happens!
Was waiting for you to chime in, I'm genuinely curious about it. My mate kinda brushed it off, take it on the chin or what have you.
He was told that in situations were no police are involved immediately and no claim made at the time of the incident, both parties have x amount of time to make a claim, so the other guy did it, maybe he was advised by someone who knew a bit about it.
It sounds too ridiculous to be true, to the point where I was curious if my friend was driving without tax/license or something along those likes, but it happened.
june gloom on 16/4/2011 at 22:28
Quote Posted by addink
Did they find a serial number the first time this happened?
No, but there wasn't any broken glass either. The first time this happened the impact wasn't bad- just a dent in the bumper. It was snowing that night and the driver probably slammed his brakes on just a hair too late (we live on the sharp corner of a one-way street, if I didn't mention before.) This time though the driver must have hit it pretty hard.
Also, Ted, drunk driving is actually the subject of massive campaigns and has been for decades. The problem is that nobody really pays attention to the ads anymore. While most people are sensible enough to either not drink too much, or have a designated driver, you get a few people who insist they're cool to drive after puking up their horribly pocked liver.
Ted O'Toole on 16/4/2011 at 22:42
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Also, Ted, drunk driving is actually the subject of massive campaigns and has been for decades. The problem is that nobody really pays attention to the ads anymore. While most people are sensible enough to either not drink too much, or have a designated driver, you get a few people who insist they're cool to drive after puking up their horribly pocked liver.
It's perhaps similar over here in a way I suppose, but when "the man" gets a sense that people are ignoring a campaign they change tac. The advertising gets more and more gruesome. It's like, they've tried asking nice, then they tried (and continue to) shock you into not being a tard. Now they get ambulance drivers, cops etc to just make an honest statement about what they see and the pieces they pick up.
Laws seems to be more strict too, I'm sure Matt can add to it, but you get breathalysed at any road side accident whether its a fender bender or serious collision. Do you guys still do the sobriety tests or is that just in those Extreme Police Videos ? (just giggled at a memory of a guy who tried to do a backflip to prove he was sober and landed on either his neck or face)
SD on 17/4/2011 at 02:13
Quote Posted by Martin Karne
Oh ok, sorry. Then the more reason to put a hidden cam there, disguised as a lamp over the house fence, garden or wall.
Record all day and all night until something happens.
If the US is anything like the UK, even footage of the incident might be spectacularly worthless.
A few years ago a guy ran into my dad's car. They swapped details for insurance purposes, as you do. That night, by an incredible coincidence, my dad's car was set on fire while it was on the driveway. And equally coincidentally, the fire was started on the bumper which had been dented by the collision.
My parents have a camera trained on the driveway, so they had all this on video, along with the empty can of fuel he'd lobbed in the bushes. And you would think the identity of the perpetrator was pretty obvious too.
Of course, the police didn't want to know, despite the case practically being solved for them. They wouldn't even fingerprint the empty can or enhance the VT. And this is pretty usual for vehicle crime. Their reasoning is that insurance companies recompense vehicle owners for their losses, so the crime is victimless one.
So if you want to know why insurance premiums are so high, and why car crime is epidemic, it's because the police are a bunch of lazy twats.
june gloom on 17/4/2011 at 03:06
Quote Posted by Ted O'Toole
It's perhaps similar over here in a way I suppose, but when "the man" gets a sense that people are ignoring a campaign they change tac. The advertising gets more and more gruesome. It's like, they've tried asking nice, then they tried (and continue to) shock you into not being a tard. Now they get ambulance drivers, cops etc to just make an honest statement about what they see and the pieces they pick up.
Laws seems to be more strict too, I'm sure Matt can add to it, but you get breathalysed at any road side accident whether its a fender bender or serious collision. Do you guys still do the sobriety tests or is that just in those Extreme Police Videos ? (just giggled at a memory of a guy who tried to do a backflip to prove he was sober and landed on either his neck or face)
Safety campaign ads can't get too specific here in the US thanks to the FCC rules and also because people over here are really hung up about violence and gore, even when it's
meant to shock you into paying attention to a message. Show people getting brutally tore up by a car accident on 10pm TV and I guarantee you there will be a lot of angry phone calls from ineffectual, boring people who completely missed the point.
Sobriety tests, I believe, probably vary on a jurisdictional basis.
fett on 17/4/2011 at 14:55
Clearly, you need to rig a decoy car with explosives that will detonate on impact.
I feel your pain - I had to deal with shit like this all the time in Arkansas. Three times, some drunk came crashing into our church parking lot (once during service) and took out someone's vehicle - and we weren't even on the main road. There were a lot of sermons on castration and genocide that year, believe you me. Fuckers.:mad:
