Mr.Duck on 11/6/2013 at 00:46
I can't complain much nowadays, currently in Canada they do "SAVE THE PONIES!" fundraisers and people freak out if you insult a chipmunk, so eh.
Better than dodging bullets and grenades in Mexico*.
Life is life. The Doom'n Gloom Brigade can piss on a bottle and drink it for all I care.
Cheers.
:)
*I love my country of origin, but seriously, things were getting out of hand, hotspot level out of hand...still are and will be for quite a while. Bleh.
PigLick on 11/6/2013 at 01:13
Kolya and Thom Yorke, seperated at birth?
But seriously congrats! And Harvester too!
june gloom on 11/6/2013 at 01:33
christ he does look like yorke
this explains a lot
CCCToad on 11/6/2013 at 02:58
I'm just gonna leave it at this:
All of the throngs of people who told me I was overreacting to the civil liberties violations a few years ago....go fuck yourselves.
Azaran on 11/6/2013 at 02:58
Quote Posted by DoTheGeek
The sole cause = $
as a reflection of human nature, that is.
I think that's a part of it: money, greed, possessions.
It made me think of the African Bushmen, one of the most technologically primitive societies on earth, but on a social level they're centuries ahead of us. They have no violence or conflicts whatsoever among them, and any potential dispute is resolved through dialogue and compromise. Also men and women are both treated equally:
Although initial marriages are often arranged by families, subsequent partnerships and their dissolution can come at the initiative of either sex. Women such as Nisa speak of a woman having lovers as a blessing - she can on her travels gain many tributes of food, affection, bonding and possessions that make life good. Domestic disputes which could become violent are often settled by protestations of concern from neighbouring families in their close-knit shelters. When a man does not help his partner she may scold and curse him publicly until the grumbling of the other forces him to take responsibility. When a major dispute threatens to burst into violence, it is confronted by the entire band in frank and forthright discussion, which leaves the offender in no doubt about the consensus of opinion concerning his behaviour and where it is likely to lead him. When their leisure is not beset with pressing problems, they exchange banter and merriment by the firelight, often talking about their relationships long into the night.(
http://tinyurl.com/lekqk3o)
And to think that westerners used to refer to these people as savages...
we are the savages. We have all this technology, all this money, and yet we're still plagued by societal problems we could have solved eons ago
catbarf on 11/6/2013 at 03:29
Quote Posted by Azaran
I think that's a part of it: money, greed, possessions.
It made me think of the African Bushmen, one of the most technologically primitive societies on earth, but on a social level they're centuries ahead of us. They have no violence or conflicts whatsoever among them, and any potential dispute is resolved through dialogue and compromise. Also men and women are both treated equally:
Although initial marriages are often arranged by families, subsequent partnerships and their dissolution can come at the initiative of either sex. Women such as Nisa speak of a woman having lovers as a blessing - she can on her travels gain many tributes of food, affection, bonding and possessions that make life good. Domestic disputes which could become violent are often settled by protestations of concern from neighbouring families in their close-knit shelters. When a man does not help his partner she may scold and curse him publicly until the grumbling of the other forces him to take responsibility. When a major dispute threatens to burst into violence, it is confronted by the entire band in frank and forthright discussion, which leaves the offender in no doubt about the consensus of opinion concerning his behaviour and where it is likely to lead him. When their leisure is not beset with pressing problems, they exchange banter and merriment by the firelight, often talking about their relationships long into the night.(
http://tinyurl.com/lekqk3o)
And to think that westerners used to refer to these people as savages...
we are the savages. We have all this technology, all this money, and yet we're still plagued by societal problems we could have solved eons ago
It's a lot easier to build a society that self-governs through personal relationships when every community is small enough for personal relationships to exist between everyone in the community. I never bought into the romantic view of primitive tribes at peace with each other and nature, when history shows savagery in all kinds of societies. Read up much on the Aztecs?
Muzman on 11/6/2013 at 04:40
Scale is definitely important. But there's quite a bit of interesting anthropology recently that says wherever you find truly brutal behaviour, you almost always find serious external pressure and threat of some kind: hardship, famine, Conquistadors etc. It's also mostly terminal for the society in question. (as I like to remind all these individualists who want everyone to be a Spartan essentially, with their own gun and martial arts training and supply of canned goods - we had to dig Sparta out of the ground fellas. Romantic though it might be does this seem like along term strategy to you?)
Doesn't necessarily provide any solutions yet, but interesting none the less.
june gloom on 11/6/2013 at 18:33
That article is strange. It makes the argument that it's implausible that a Texas jury would acquit a guy based on property law. But it's trying to justify the verdict based on assumptions not in evidence while disregarding the actual evidence. The defense lawyer made the claim that the guy was trying to get his money back -- and the prosecution and the judge dropped the ball. This is Texas, and the guy was white and male while the victim was a brown woman. What do you think happened? A guy killed someone and got away with it, giving anyone the benefit of the doubt is naive.
