Filben on 5/8/2001 at 21:01
I just saw today on Planetdeusex that Deus Ex was number two on PC Gamer UKs best 100 games ever. Pretty cool I'd say. And System Shock is #10.
Here is the list of the top 10:
10) System Shock
9) Championship Manager 00/01 [what the ??]
8) Grim Fandango
7) Quake III: Arena
6) Civilisation II
5) Counter-Strike
4) Shogun: Total War The Mongol Invasion
3) Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
2) Deus Ex
1) Half-Life
Airbag_Victim on 6/8/2001 at 00:17
Heh, guess I should get my hands on that Shogun game. I love Deus Ex. I haven't been able to play it for a while, but now it seems to run well on my computer again. I do believe that it is one of the greatest games of all times. I haven't gotten all the way through it though.. so I kinda find myself disagreeing with that #2 position it has. Mainly becuase that is SUCH a strong statement. Maybe if I were to play through the whole thing, I would see. It's definitely up there though, among the best games ever.
D`JK on 6/8/2001 at 17:12
Half Life #1? *shakes head sadly*
X on 6/8/2001 at 18:55
Personally I feel Deus Ex should have been No. 1, it IS the best game ever and I hope you will agree with me. Half-Life was great at the time, but has dated badly and has little or no replayability. The final boss is one of the biggest let downs ever.
However, Deus Ex is perfection for reasons that would go on for several pages. I was also let down that Max Payne wasnt mentioned. I appreciate that it was only reviewed in that issue, but it would have made the list more definative. And where was Floor 13?
buglunch on 6/8/2001 at 23:28
And Quake III sure doesn't belong in top ten. Unreal should be in there.
Denise on 7/8/2001 at 00:17
While normally I would agree on both Quake 3 and Half-Life not quite deserving their positions (I was bored with HL years ago, and Q3 never appealed), they won them through their moddability. Half-Life's original game has been expanded so far beyond what it was at release that it continues to be one of the most-played multiplayer games --and indeed, games period. Quake 3 is basically a tech demo, but you can see what can be done with it in Raven's product lineup.
In this day and age where reviewers seem most concerned with multiplayer even though only 1 in 4 players will buy your typical title just for multi, the fact that Deus Ex ranked so very high is a wonderful accolade in and of itself. With no multiplayer upon release and only a relatively dismal showing after extensive patching, ranking DX #2 on its single-player component alone is a glowing tribute.
MJohnston on 7/8/2001 at 01:25
Multi-player.... Baaaaah
Have you never played Atomic Bomberman?
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Seriously, DX is the best. But AB is second by a mile :p
Phydeaux on 7/8/2001 at 16:10
Halflife definitly should be up there, not just for quality (apart from that Xen crap), but for innovation and its mods. It's STILL the largest FPS community game out there, perhaps the only game that's played more is Diablo 2. Thousands of mods, enough to play them forever and still not play them all. Not bad for a 3 year old game.
Deus Ex should be #1 though, and although System Shock is in top 10, SS2 isn't and should be. Quake 3 should NOT be in top 10 (or 100). The original, maybe.
X on 7/8/2001 at 18:52
If Half Life won for its mods, then Counter Strike shouldnt be there. Deus Ex pushed every bouandary possible. Half Life was the transportation of Hollywood Sci Fi to gaming.
rhalibus on 7/8/2001 at 19:13
I'm playing one of the Deus Ex mods right now, and one of the main reasons I feel that Deus Ex should be included in the list is the way the game gives you a sense of total immersion in a _complete_ world (SS2 got the immersion down but not the people)--you can talk to anyone, solve problems any way you want...and this is just a mod! Deus Ex 2 will either rock the physical world or replace it :)
