Erkki on 12/2/2001 at 03:03
A week ago I bought ATI Radeon 64MB and now I can finally play Deus Ex in high detail (still 640x480 though, I have a poor CPU - celeron 300@450). In most places it runs ok, but it's still quite slow in some places. Sometimes it isn't even a very poly-rich scene where it stutters (is that the word?). Right now I'm near the Knights Templar Cathedral, and it's getting slow again.
I've heard (probably here) that Unreal Engine games run smoothly only on Voodoo cards. Is there no way that I can make it run normally (with high detail) on my Radeon? I've used the tweaks posted at (
http://www.rage3d.com) www.rage3d.com
Some games that have more visual details run much faster than Deus Ex.
Erkki
buglunch on 12/2/2001 at 03:22
Use D3D rather than OpenGL mode, if that helps.
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Absynthe on 12/2/2001 at 05:44
In all 3D games there are two primary bottlenecks. The 3D card and the CPU. Unreal based games have always required more CPU power than Quake base games. I suspect the Celeron is where your slow down may be coming from.
Another possibility is RAM. Though even Quake3 can live with 64meg of ram Unreal based games just don't give you the respect you deserve until you cough up 128meg.
Erkki on 12/2/2001 at 16:08
I am using DirectX (with the Deus Ex DirectX patch) and I have 256M RAM. It probably is the Celeron then... But I'm not going to upgrade that too soon.
Agent Monkeysee on 13/2/2001 at 03:17
That sounds like the problem. I have a Pentium III 450 and upgraded from a Voodoo3 to a Voodoo5 while I was playing DX and I actually noticed very little performance increase. My bottleneck is the proc and since we have the same clock speed that's prolly your problem as well.
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BackDoorBandit on 14/2/2001 at 14:07
Erkki,
Your processor is on the boderling here, but the main problem, which alot of people cannot get into their heads is the video card. Sure, you have a recent, state of the art D3D video card in that Radeon of yours, but the Unreal Engine is coded for Glide. If you had used that exact same system that you got now, but ran a Voodoo 3 for instance, you wouldn't see any slow downs at all.
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Erkki on 14/2/2001 at 15:31
Thanx for the info Bandit, I had heard this before but wasn't sure.
But UT actually runs ok on my PC (even when I didn't have the Radeon yet (had Rage Fury), I got 45-50 or more FPS and no slowdowns) although I'm not a big shooter fan so I haven't really played a lot. Got it for Thievery
Inline Image:
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/ubb/smile.gifBut I guess Deus Ex uses more CPU than UT?
Will the next generation Unreal engines be optimized for DirectX or OpenGL instead of Glide?
[This message has been edited by Erkki (edited February 14, 2001).]
frozenman on 14/2/2001 at 21:20
Its kinda disappointing considering i can run UT at 1024x768x16 bit color with normal detail level and have nearly no slowdowns at all - but then i have to run Deus Ex at 640x480x16 bit color with low details to get a playable framerate. I guess its cause of the inventory system and all the complex AI's.
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BackDoorBandit on 14/2/2001 at 21:45
This is kind of frustrating, because this is kind of common sense here guys. Don't you research (Read Preveiews, Reveiews, First-Looks, etc.) games before you play them?
If you did, then you would know that Deus Ex is based off the Unreal Engine......<u>NOT</u> the Unreal
Tournament Engine. There is a huge difference between the two. It's like comparing the Quake 1 engine to the Quake 2 engine.
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Kerovan on 14/2/2001 at 23:18
I've got a Celeron 333 with 96 megs ram, and a Voodoo 3:2000 video card. Game runs fine most of the time, but it slows down a bit when there's a lot going on. I've got a processor that's right on the edge of acceptability, so the only thing I can figure for the relatively good performance is the video card I have.
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