EvaUnit02 on 16/8/2011 at 14:08
"You have to drive the supply truck from this village to some other village and then once you get there they say the order was messed up, so you drive all the way back."
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Yakoob on 17/8/2011 at 03:29
Going back to my torchlight bitching, I just realized... the skill tree progression is utterly fucked up. Let's look at Ricochet, 88% DPS damage at 4mana cost. Lets do the upgrade, going from 88%->100% and 4->5 mana. Cool I'm more power- watit... that's a 13% damage increase at a 25% extra cost WTF?! This is just as bad for the Explosive shot. And the traps are the worst - the Flame trap which, when maxed out (Lv10), deals 54% more damage at a 245% (!) greater mana cost (11->27). Uuhhh... wtf? The more you upgrade the less efficient you become. :confused:
Yes I know I am not taking into account "time" as a factor here, but we're talking about either quick shots you will inevitably keep spamming tens of times, or traps that are so mana hungry you want to minimize their cost as much as possible. In either case, with each upgrade you see increasingly more diminishing returns. And honestly, if it takes a bit longer to dish out the same damage, then that's just more time for your mana to regen too (and you're a vanquisher, you're either standing on the sides or running away so time is cheap).
The whole reason I even noticed this discrepancy is because Ive been saving a few points and just did a mass-update of a few levels on the explosive arrow and now im burning through mana way faster now but not really seeing much of an improvement in my killability. Can I downgrade back please?
And the same applies to all the skills. I have about 10 skill points unassigned atm because I was saving them up for higher-tier shit but now I dont think I want to upgrade them anymore. Might as well spend it on some BS skill like the adventurer or pet master, at least they dont have drawbacks that outweight the postivies
Koki on 17/8/2011 at 05:41
Quote Posted by Yakoob
88% DPS damage
wat
Vernon on 17/8/2011 at 06:06
Quote Posted by Matthew
If it was good enough for Syndicate then BY ODIN IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME
:D
Yakoob on 17/8/2011 at 06:38
Umm the skill takes your current weapon's "damage per second" value and uses 88% of that to inflict damage.
Koki on 17/8/2011 at 06:45
How bizarre
Eldron on 17/8/2011 at 07:16
On top of the damage of the regular damage, in ricochet it'll be 88% dps when it ricochets on additional enemies, torchlight had quite some issues though.
The increasing manacost is to balance it with your vastly growing and regenerative mana at higher levels.
But then again, these are issues that I would imagine blizzard wants to solve with d3 but that some bitter elderly people call 'simplification'
Koki on 17/8/2011 at 07:40
Removing something is not fixing it. Go away.
Vernon on 17/8/2011 at 07:45
It's true! Just ask anyone from rpgcodex :sly:
Eldron on 17/8/2011 at 09:12
Quote Posted by Koki
Removing something is not fixing it. Go away.
Most often fixing something involves removing something that just doesn't fit in, or doesn't play well with other things.
It's just that the very THOUGHT that something isn't there anymore hurts in the mind of purists, or that complexity is always better.
But then again, by all means be an armchair designer Koki.
